Next Generation BMW Z4: A More Dynamic Sports Car

Hope they don't make the bonnet too short otherwise I'll need surgery to compensate :D
 
No doubt a diesel will feature in the line up. It will likely be the best seller...


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"The thinking here is that the longevity of modern cars means that older BMWs still have an impact on brand image. So they’re now designed with timelessness in mind, avoiding stand-out features that might age quickly"

That means Audi like bland styling then. With references to shorter bonnet etc aligning more with the Z2 stories perhaps. 2015 is a long way off... I'll probably be in a 5 series by then lol
 
Personally I think this will quickly overtake any 'new' face-lifts certainly within 5 years if not sooner.
If the i8 Spyder looks like this, even with a short bonnet then it gets my vote :thumbsup:

http://www.bmw-i.co.uk/en_gb/bmw-i8/
 
I would imagine the i models, particularly the i8, being beyond expensive at first... think super 6 series pricing at like £80K+.. if cheaper, than sure I'll have one... well perhaps once all the bugs have been worked out of it in year 2!
 
Maniac said:
"The thinking here is that the longevity of modern cars means that older BMWs still have an impact on brand image. So they’re now designed with timelessness in mind, avoiding stand-out features that might age quickly"

That means Audi like bland styling then. With references to shorter bonnet etc aligning more with the Z2 stories perhaps. 2015 is a long way off... I'll probably be in a 5 series by then lol

That means "The long bonnet costs too much!" :wink:

Mind you they won't need it to be fair seeing as by then they will be using lawn mower engines! :P
 
Maniac said:
"The thinking here is that the longevity of modern cars means that older BMWs still have an impact on brand image. So they’re now designed with timelessness in mind, avoiding stand-out features that might age quickly"

That means Audi like bland styling then.

I'm not sure that is necessarily the case. I think the E85/6 and E89 are obviously related to one another and I reckon BMW will still see the E85/6 reflecting positively on the brand. I read this to mean that design progression from one evolution to the next will be more subtle but in a traditional sports car like a Roadster it's much easier to design timeless than in a saloon/hatch. Think of the 911 and it's iterations or the Boxster or the MX5. None has changed radically but the overall design has remained relevant to the times.
 
"Therefore the weight distribution in the new model will be vastly improved"

Vastly improved?? I thought the E85/E86 already has pretty much perfect 50/50 weight distribution. How are they going to vastly improve on that? Eh?

The whole article is just bollocks ... basically, BMW want to move to 4 cylinder engines to satisfy EU regulations ... but their customer base does not particularly want 4 cylinders. Customers like the nice smooth straight sixes (already the lightest engines in their class). So, it's all shmooze talk. And if the 4 cyl engines are smaller, BMW probably HAVE to make the Z4 bonnet smaller ... or it will look damn silly. So, that explains the smaller bonnet.

Summary: If BMW seriously wants agile and sporty, the first and obvious step is to drop the metal folding roof that adds 400 pounds to the car. That is all.
 
original guvnor said:
Maniac said:
"The thinking here is that the longevity of modern cars means that older BMWs still have an impact on brand image. So they’re now designed with timelessness in mind, avoiding stand-out features that might age quickly"

That means Audi like bland styling then.

I'm not sure that is necessarily the case. I think the E85/6 and E89 are obviously related to one another and I reckon BMW will still see the E85/6 reflecting positively on the brand. I read this to mean that design progression from one evolution to the next will be more subtle but in a traditional sports car like a Roadster it's much easier to design timeless than in a saloon/hatch. Think of the 911 and it's iterations or the Boxster or the MX5. None has changed radically but the overall design has remained relevant to the times.

Yes, bland. lol... :rofl:
 
krusty said:
The whole article is just bollocks ... basically, BMW want to move to 4 cylinder engines to satisfy EU regulations ... but their customer base does not particularly want 4 cylinders.

Spot on.
 
Rialas said:
krusty said:
The whole article is just bollocks ... basically, BMW want to move to 4 cylinder engines to satisfy EU regulations ... but their customer base does not particularly want 4 cylinders.

Spot on.

BMW doesn't WANT 4-cylinder engines. It HAS to make them. An important difference.
 
Personally I would rather they made the car look more like a Morgan Aero8 than a Coxter. Just me perhaps not every ones cup of tea. I love the long bonnet It's one thing that makes the Z4M stand out. The other is the Engine. :thumbsup: If both are gone in future generations and BMW go for the Passat of sports cars look, :thumbsdown: it will sell 1000's and I will be looking elsewhere, maybe back to Italy. :thumbsup:
 
Mmm, "sportier ride..."
Much like the older generation Z4 then that everyone said was too sporty a ride.
Be interesting to see how this progresses. Would be logical to expect them to include the i8 type styling and fit with their overall range plan.
 
inkey$ said:
Mmm, "sportier ride..."
Much like the older generation Z4 then that everyone said was too sporty a ride.
Be interesting to see how this progresses. Would be logical to expect them to include the i8 type styling and fit with their overall range plan.

I'm not convinced they'll use i8 styling cues inkey$, because they have been quite clear so far that the i-badged cars will be a separate brand, in much the same way the Mini is.

For me what was interesting about this article was the tacit admission that the E89 has been a sales "miss" as the massive discounts on the s-drive 20i illustrated. They got the model wrong and misunderstood their core demographic - who wanted a proper sports car roadster and not a boulevard cruiser. Oh and no M halo model was the final nail in the coffin.
 
Ah, I didnt know that.
Guess E89 suffers from a timing issue. Not the greatest past few years to release a two seater sports car for middle money.
 
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