Argyll Andy said:
Saw that one yesterday and didnt point it our as no iDrive and Se spec
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Saw that one yesterday and didnt point it our as no iDrive and Se spec
Smash said:
Looks clean and tidy, nice colour and interior - has the toys you want at the right price and mileage.
You can change the wheels if you want so its just the sport bit, I think you should have a conversation with the dealer and go from there
Although its the same price as the black one
Smash said:
Ash, you’re bloody confusing me now . That’s the same mileage, model and price as the one I linked :wink: For me if you’re asking for thoughts I’m going to compare both these cars
Grey one, small wheels, iDrive, SE heated seats, parking sensors no wind deflector, old style indicators, no mention of service history
Black one, 18” refurbed 294’s, no iDrive, MSport heated seats, parking sensors, wind deflector, old style indicators, good service history
My choice would be the black one because, upgraded wheels, better seats, and wind deflector. Possible spend, upgrade stereo £500, upgrade indicators £120 total spend £620
Grey one, upgrade wheels £700+, wind deflector £150 ish, indicators £120 total spend £970.
Which brings us back to where we’ve been a few times. If you’re going to buy a car like this and do the upgrades your £11k spend would get you into a newer lower mileage MSport with everything you want in it
All imo
Argyll Andy said:Smash said:
For me if you’re asking for thoughts I’m going to compare both these cars
Grey one, small wheels, iDrive, SE heated seats, parking sensors no wind deflector, old style indicators, no mention of service history
Black one, 18” refurbed 294’s, no iDrive, MSport heated seats, parking sensors, wind deflector, old style indicators, good service history
My choice would be the black one because, upgraded wheels, better seats, and wind deflector. Possible spend, upgrade stereo £500, upgrade indicators £120 total spend £620
Grey one, upgrade wheels £700+, wind deflector £150 ish, indicators £120 total spend £970.
Which brings us back to where we’ve been a few times. If you’re going to buy a car like this and do the upgrades your £11k spend would get you into a newer lower mileage MSport with everything you want in it
All imo
Fantastic, see I just do not see these things you’ve just mentioned and it helps me to get my head around the hundreds of things added on as extras or missing. I’m used to cars with 2 specs. I can be very indecisive as you can see, I’ve saved up for years so just want to make the right decision.
Smash said:Argyll Andy said:Smash said:
For me if you’re asking for thoughts I’m going to compare both these cars
Grey one, small wheels, iDrive, SE heated seats, parking sensors no wind deflector, old style indicators, no mention of service history
Black one, 18” refurbed 294’s, no iDrive, MSport heated seats, parking sensors, wind deflector, old style indicators, good service history
My choice would be the black one because, upgraded wheels, better seats, and wind deflector. Possible spend, upgrade stereo £500, upgrade indicators £120 total spend £620
Grey one, upgrade wheels £700+, wind deflector £150 ish, indicators £120 total spend £970.
Which brings us back to where we’ve been a few times. If you’re going to buy a car like this and do the upgrades your £11k spend would get you into a newer lower mileage MSport with everything you want in it
All imo
Fantastic, see I just do not see these things you’ve just mentioned and it helps me to get my head around the hundreds of things added on as extras or missing. I’m used to cars with 2 specs. I can be very indecisive as you can see, I’ve saved up for years so just want to make the right decision.
Its the right thing to wait, but maybe chuck a wanted ad in the relevant section on here.
Andy is spot on, I would be taking the black one out of the two but he also stopped me buying a 35i just for the sake of it as it would not have been the colour or spec I wanted and then I would be looking to sell it to get what I wanted.
You want Msport with the toys then you should be looking for a highline Msport but you need to stretch your budget a little, as soon as you start adding stuff on you will soon be on £11 or £12k very quickly :|
Smash said:Argyll Andy said:Smash said:
For me if you’re asking for thoughts I’m going to compare both these cars
Grey one, small wheels, iDrive, SE heated seats, parking sensors no wind deflector, old style indicators, no mention of service history
Black one, 18” refurbed 294’s, no iDrive, MSport heated seats, parking sensors, wind deflector, old style indicators, good service history
My choice would be the black one because, upgraded wheels, better seats, and wind deflector. Possible spend, upgrade stereo £500, upgrade indicators £120 total spend £620
Grey one, upgrade wheels £700+, wind deflector £150 ish, indicators £120 total spend £970.
Which brings us back to where we’ve been a few times. If you’re going to buy a car like this and do the upgrades your £11k spend would get you into a newer lower mileage MSport with everything you want in it
All imo
Fantastic, see I just do not see these things you’ve just mentioned and it helps me to get my head around the hundreds of things added on as extras or missing. I’m used to cars with 2 specs. I can be very indecisive as you can see, I’ve saved up for years so just want to make the right decision.
Ash, the first thing is it’s your money which you’ve saved hard for and your prerogative to be as indecisive and fussy as you want
Also as you know by now most of our comments are lighthearted and a bit tongue in cheek.
As Sean said I stopped him buying one last week because it wasn’t what he really wanted. This is also probably why your getting more things thrown at you as possibles because your criteria is more fluid.
One thing you maybe want to do is sit down with a bit of paper and list the absolute musts, the would like and the not arsed things and you will be able to discount cars immediately. A quick look, no X, Y or Z, onto the next one.
Another thing that could make the world of difference is if you decide to save for another 6 months to allow you to increase your budget slightly. That may open up a whole new batch of cars for you.
You not wanting a white car, again I completely understand, even though I said out the two id pick the black one, I wouldn’t want a black car because of the hassle of keeping it clean :lol: but one of the best buys around just now is the white Highline I linked the other day, but like Sean you’d be buying something which wasn’t really what you wanted so I’d say don’t even consider it.
Throwing in a bit of a curveball, without knowing details of the car, but since you’ve been considering higher mileage ones, this maybe something you want to check out when more details become available
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/255013545599?hash=item3b5ffde67f:i:255013545599
All good advice, will write down all the things I want in the car and then I can put it in here. I like the light hearted nature of the forum, seems a lot of good folk here and I’m always in for a bit of a fun. Black dirty car I can live with... just, but a white dirty car eww no.
Id take sports seats over i drive any day of the week.. Wouldn't want a black interior tho.. I admire your patience smash, I'd also take se suspension over msport, personally I think all you need in a weekend toy is heated sports seats, and a decent stereo. I went from a fully loaded msport e85 to a fairly lightly specced e89 and the only toy I really missed was the 10 speaker system in the e85 so spent a bit of time sorting that and now love the car despite a lack of trinkets.
I think the above advice is good, make a list of absolute musts (hint.. Put heated msport seats at the top)
Another list of nice to have and just find a car that covers the musts, any extras are a bonus.. Hope you find a car you love soon
I think the above advice is good, make a list of absolute musts (hint.. Put heated msport seats at the top
)Another list of nice to have and just find a car that covers the musts, any extras are a bonus.. Hope you find a car you love soon
Ash, hits most of your points, including MSport and budget with a bit of wriggle room in price to upgrade the stereo
Decent mileage and service history.
No iDrive or parking sensors but as Mr Tourettes says, all important heated M seats, no wind deflector but I’ve a spare one kicking around that I will sell you :lol:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106123760098?price-from=6000&make=BMW&model=Z4&radius=200&aggregatedTrim=23i&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=np45xf&advertising-location=at_cars&include-delivery-option=on&sort=datedesc&page=1
Decent mileage and service history.
No iDrive or parking sensors but as Mr Tourettes says, all important heated M seats, no wind deflector but I’ve a spare one kicking around that I will sell you :lol:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106123760098?price-from=6000&make=BMW&model=Z4&radius=200&aggregatedTrim=23i&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=np45xf&advertising-location=at_cars&include-delivery-option=on&sort=datedesc&page=1
Ash, just to say I totally agree with a list of non negotiables
One I had my list it was easy to actually wait then pounce when I saw what I wanted I knew I wanted it plus when your comparing specifics you know if it’s a good price or not because you are comparing a much smaller cross section of variety rather than say 2 cars that are both z4’s but completely different specs & milages then thinking the 5k difference makes the more mileage lower spec car look attractive - if you get what I mean
I think the advice you are getting about what hidden extras you might encounter is useful so you might see a car & maybe call a dealer or individual to book a test drive but link the ad here so you can have guys point stuff out to help you negotiate on the price when you get there
One I had my list it was easy to actually wait then pounce when I saw what I wanted I knew I wanted it plus when your comparing specifics you know if it’s a good price or not because you are comparing a much smaller cross section of variety rather than say 2 cars that are both z4’s but completely different specs & milages then thinking the 5k difference makes the more mileage lower spec car look attractive - if you get what I mean
I think the advice you are getting about what hidden extras you might encounter is useful so you might see a car & maybe call a dealer or individual to book a test drive but link the ad here so you can have guys point stuff out to help you negotiate on the price when you get there
At the summit of the picturesque fens
Again, everyone has their own list of "must haves" which are different from others, which makes advice threads even more confusing
As an all weather car I can see heated seats being a priority (and a resale help) , but we never use ours. I would say as a practical "must have" PDC front and rear before anything else. E89s are a pig to see out of with a looong bonnet and stubby arse.
Once you have decided on your spec and physically view cars, remember to check that everything works correctly, especially roof and check the battery area and general boot area for signs of water ingress. These are complicated cars and some repairs can be very costly as well as bloody infuriating. The forum can help immensely with these though.
As an all weather car I can see heated seats being a priority (and a resale help) , but we never use ours. I would say as a practical "must have" PDC front and rear before anything else. E89s are a pig to see out of with a looong bonnet and stubby arse.
Once you have decided on your spec and physically view cars, remember to check that everything works correctly, especially roof and check the battery area and general boot area for signs of water ingress. These are complicated cars and some repairs can be very costly as well as bloody infuriating. The forum can help immensely with these though.
Pondrew said:
The only way we’d get in there is if we were robbing it :lol:
It doesn’t matter if you like the bloody car or not, it’s not for you
Smash said:
Ash, everyone is giving advice and pointing our cars as they know you want one, so we all want you to find one you are happy with.
When I bought mine, I spent a month just doing research and knew that I had a criteria I would not deviate from even if I was 80% of the way there with a car, I just knew I would regret buying something not right from past experience, that's why I had a chat with Andy a week or so about a 35i I was looking at, for me wrong colour and less spec than my current car so why bother as I cant use the extra power in reality.
For me I wanted Msport spec with 3 main things, iDrive, heated seats and a wind deflector (I have had many vert so know these are a god send), anything beyond that was a bonus.
Based on the research I did I knew if an Msport Highline came up in budget and with what I thought was sensible mileage, I was going for it as long as it was not black or silver.
This is what you must do and just be patient or extend that budget a little which will give you more options.
If you think the black one is the right car, go for but negotiate hard based on others for sale in the market and tell the guy he is overpriced and may struggle to sell or just watch and when he drops the price (assuming it does not sell), pounce.
You can see cars with 130k miles at £7k so at 10k per annum you have four years to get to that level with the black one.
The most important thing, its your money and how you spend it is up to you and you have to live with what you buy.
PS - white cars actually hide the dirt quite well and years ago my misses said it was posers colour now she's loves the zed in white
Based on your higher mileage black one - https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202106113741282?make=BMW&model=Z4&radius=200&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=np45xf&include-delivery-option=on&price-from=6000&sort=relevance&page=
Bit of a marmite colour though but has heated sport seats and idrive and is 30i
Or there is this one -- https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202105283198127?make=BMW&model=Z4&radius=200&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=np45xf&include-delivery-option=on&price-from=6000&sort=relevance&page=26
Could be SE or Msport - no pics yet to tell
Bit of a marmite colour though but has heated sport seats and idrive and is 30i
Or there is this one -- https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202105283198127?make=BMW&model=Z4&radius=200&advertising-location=at_cars&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&postcode=np45xf&include-delivery-option=on&price-from=6000&sort=relevance&page=26
Could be SE or Msport - no pics yet to tell
Thank you all for these comments, I’ve just got back from a friends wedding, also acted as taxi service for the stragglers (Great fun finding houses in the country in the dark with drunken passengers not knowing where they live). Up again at 6am for the touring cars at Snetterton so I’ll have a good read tomorrow when I’ve got a bit of time, certainly some good points from what I’ve briefly read but need sleep..... Appreciate it guys I’ll message back tomorrow properly.
Smash said:
This one seems sensible if you can live with Auto plus its a 30i so a decent price /mileage and spec - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124770469516?hash=item1d0ce6468c:g:tDAAAOSwkS1gxfpE
23i manual with no iDrive, heated seats and PDC are there with 69k miles - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164911157088?hash=item2665788f60:g:FwkAAOSwYwNgxiJC