New z4mc for me!
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RedUn said:Have a nosey on the KW site they list the spring weights John. In my opinion in dont think the club sports are "that"bumpy, I did 3.5k miles round Europe on them and it wasn't an issue at all 8)
Edit to add, on a bumpy road it's obviously bumpy though!
I’ve got a KW V3 street kit still in the box, itching to fit them but I’m supposed to be selling the car.... :roll:
Apologies for the thread assassination OP...
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Here she is.
2009 Alpineweiss with black interior!
I love her!
From what I understand from all the comments I believe that my HRs are the stiffest! :x :x :x
What about bilstein?
You talk about different versions... b16 b12 etc... what is the difference?
I would go for something with adjustable ride height, and adjustable softness.... even if Inwould like something that with standard settings is usable on the road...
Do I néed front struts when I put coil overs on?
Thank youu
2009 Alpineweiss with black interior!
I love her!
From what I understand from all the comments I believe that my HRs are the stiffest! :x :x :x
What about bilstein?
You talk about different versions... b16 b12 etc... what is the difference?
I would go for something with adjustable ride height, and adjustable softness.... even if Inwould like something that with standard settings is usable on the road...
Do I néed front struts when I put coil overs on?
Thank youu
TomK said:R60BBA said:
Do enlighten us, a geo setup that alters the spring rate/damping? Where do you get that done then, I'd love to know
Given the Op is running H&R's which are non adjustable other than ride height and are renowned for being very stiff I would suggest he would be better off looking at Bilstein B16 or KWv3 which use the stock top mounts like he would be at the moment but with some damping adjustability.
Thanks for the info...
I just had all the geometry setup done and it is not possible to make any kind of regulations....
I have the original suspensions in a box, but I want this car to be just right, and probably with a new kit I can get a better damping.... what do you think?
North West Surrey
lucduc76 said:
Well hi and welcome Luca.
White MCs are pretty rare anywhere, and going by this database only 8 were registered in Italy so you have bought a special car! http://perso.numericable.fr/tonyz4c/index.html
Good luck getting the suspension how you want it.
Oh, and welcome to the exclusive Coupe club. :lol:
I would really recommend looking at the B16 bilstein kit, it offers ride height as well as good damping adjustment, for sure if you wish you can make it ride better than the original suspension. The quality of their product is great as well, never needs rebuild etc.lucduc76 said:
Their B12 kit is much cheaper, non adjustable for either ride height or damping and for me at least I found it incredibly hard on the road, if pretty decent on track. The KW clubsport I have now ride better than B12 even with the solid top mounts.
B16 is not particularly cheap though, maybe €1600 or so, but it's really worth spending the money now to get it right imo.
Car looks sweet, very rare the white ones in the Uk. Enjoy
Mr Tidy said:lucduc76 said:
Well hi and welcome Luca.
White MCs are pretty rare anywhere, and going by this database only 8 were registered in Italy so you have bought a special car!
Good luck getting the suspension how you want it.
Oh, and welcome to the exclusive Coupe club. :lol:
Thanks for the welcome!
It looks like a very active forum this one, I feel good to have found somebody who can help!
Yes, in Italy is so rare that I had to buy it in Germany... so soon there will be 9 registered in Italy!
TomK said:I would really recommend looking at the B16 bilstein kit, it offers ride height as well as good damping adjustment, for sure if you wish you can make it ride better than the original suspension. The quality of their product is great as well, never needs rebuild etc.lucduc76 said:
Their B12 kit is much cheaper, non adjustable for either ride height or damping and for me at least I found it incredibly hard on the road, if pretty decent on track. The KW clubsport I have now ride better than B12 even with the solid top mounts.
B16 is not particularly cheap though, maybe €1600 or so, but it's really worth spending the money now to get it right imo.
Car looks sweet, very rare the white ones in the Uk. Enjoy
Ok, it is definitely not cheap, but I believe for this car they are worth it...
I saw them on the bilstein website... probably you can buy directly from them...
I saw the specs of your car... fantastic!
What were the mods that you believe I should do first?
(Obviously apart from coils...)
I was thinking about the air intake (just for the incredible sound...)
And maybe some nice sport seats...
lucduc76 said:
Well it looks like 103 white MCs were registered in Germany, so I'm sure they can spare one for Italy! :lol:
I've driven an M once, and the engine is truly epic - sadly I couldn't really justify buying it.
But you have bought a truly fantastic car IMO!
And I've found the forum really helpful - I just should have joined before I bought one.
haha, it's a slippery slope. I'd enjoy the car for what it is now with the suspension sorted. Then I guess it depends on what you do most with the car... if it goes on track then you will need to address the brakes, if it's for the road then extra noise from either induction/exhaust might be something you'd want... You can get fairly close to the sound of the CSL airbox with either the eventuri or gruppe M replacements of the standard front end of the airbox, it also means you don't need to get the engine mapped for alpha-n which can be tricky to say the least.
1066 Country
lucduc76 said:
If you’re 100% on swapping out the H&Rs then I strongly recommend KW V2s as a good quality and affordable set of coilovers for road use.
Although V3s have more adjustability, they can be quite a fiddle to set up right. Speaking from experience V2s are easier to set up, and are very compliant, not to mention your wallet will be healthier.
The equivalent to V2s/V3s is the Bilstein B16 (aka PSS10). However KW’s dampers are made using inox technology (stainless steel bodies) and so are much more resistant to rust (unlike Bilsteins).
However this may not be an issue for you seeing as you live in Italy...
As long as you avoid the cheaper stuff (eg HSD, eBay etc) and opt for a good quality brand (eg Ohlins, KW or Bilstein) you won’t be disappointed. But with coilovers, I find that how they are set up can make all the difference.
Ciao guys, sorry for asking more questions....
In the end I thought about it and I would probably go for the kw v3s they seem to be great!
Question.... I would like to put a strut brace in the front. Do you know one that looks very “oem”?
In Italy they are forbidden (crazy nation we have :x ) and I wouldn’t go for a red tube under the bonnet... too visible.
Thanks!
In the end I thought about it and I would probably go for the kw v3s they seem to be great!
Question.... I would like to put a strut brace in the front. Do you know one that looks very “oem”?
In Italy they are forbidden (crazy nation we have :x ) and I wouldn’t go for a red tube under the bonnet... too visible.
Thanks!