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murphybarnes

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Hi all. So the wife's 2005 2.0 needs new rear run flats. I find the handling a bit wayward but she does not. Anyway we have realised we could buy 4 non run flats for the price of 2 rears give or take.
Any suggestions? Thoughts on Toyo Proxes?
TIA..
 
Def ditch runflats, and regarding tyre choice id say depends on driving style and mileage. I have A quality make on the Coupe uniroyals which came with the car and budgets on the Roadster. Tbh the miles I do in the Roadster ill stick with budgets as they have been great in all conditions.
I'm sure others n here will tell you a specific brand from their own experiences.
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murphybarnes said:
Hi all. So the wife's 2005 2.0 needs new rear run flats. I find the handling a bit wayward but she does not. Anyway we have realised we could buy 4 non run flats for the price of 2 rears give or take.
Any suggestions? Thoughts on Toyo Proxes?
TIA..
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Definitely ditch the run flats, buy a can of fix a flat and enjoy the smooth ride
Vredestein Ultrac Vorti have a good reputation on here I think
I use Goodyear Assymetrics which are also reasonably priced
Michelins are more expensive but top all the comparison tests
 
I use Vredstein ultrac vortis and love them.

They’re perfect in the dry but if you’re doing long wet motorway miles you’d probably find a better all rounder, not that I’ve had any issues in the wet months.
 
Another :thumbsup: for the Vreds!
I put them on a previous 3.0 E 89 (Sessantas) and thought they did the job well.
They weren’t expensive yet stuck well in both wet and dry - wear rate was also good.
 
I changed from 16" Bridgestone Potenza runflats to Uniroyal Rainmaster on the E85 - yes, a big improvement. But also the runflats were old and certainly past their use-by date so not a fair comparison. My wife's Mini has runflats and they are fine. I'd say it depends on tyre size and style of driving, and personal preference (one reason the Mini has runflats - if she got a puncture, it would be me who got the phone call to go and change it!). I've got Pirelli P Zeros on my SLK, which are great in the wet and the dry - so long as the ambient temperature is at least around 12 deg C (they're being replaced by Continentals next week).

Strongly recommend you look at some of the more informed reviews on www.tyrereviews.co.uk
 
Why do people bother with runflats??

They're very expensive, rubbish compared to the usual rubber.

I've never had a puncture on the road in 30 years of driving but in case you do, just buy a £5 repair and go can or carry a space saver replacement that you'll 99% likely never use!
 
highway1 said:
Why do people bother with runflats??

They're very expensive, rubbish compared to the usual rubber.

I've never had a puncture on the road in 30 years of driving but in case you do, just buy a £5 repair and go can or carry a space saver replacement that you'll 99% likely never use!
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Because they're oem
 
philbo909 said:
highway1 said:
Why do people bother with runflats??

They're very expensive, rubbish compared to the usual rubber.

I've never had a puncture on the road in 30 years of driving but in case you do, just buy a £5 repair and go can or carry a space saver replacement that you'll 99% likely never use!
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Because they're oem



Yes probably but, basic research would soon having you ditching oem!
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highway1 said:
philbo909 said:
highway1 said:
Why do people bother with runflats??

They're very expensive, rubbish compared to the usual rubber.

I've never had a puncture on the road in 30 years of driving but in case you do, just buy a £5 repair and go can or carry a space saver replacement that you'll 99% likely never use!
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Because they're oem



Yes probably but, basic research would soon having you ditching oem!
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Yes. It's the first 'mod' I did, run flat tyres are a false economy
 
Michelin Pilot Sport 4 on the car two weeks ago. 200 miles later and they feel better than the Eagle F1 AS2.

Blackcirlces were doing them for £491 for the set. 1 week later they came down £100 so might be worth looking at them.

Also check the local Tyre fitting place and see if they can match the Blackcircles price.
 
highway1 said:
Why do people bother with runflats??

They're very expensive, rubbish compared to the usual rubber.

I've never had a puncture on the road in 30 years of driving but in case you do, just buy a £5 repair and go can or carry a space saver replacement that you'll 99% likely never use!
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I think it's more a case of horses for courses, not one size fits all. Yes they're generally more expensive, but some non-RFT tyres are pretty similar in price.
Rubbish? That's a bit harsh, it depends on what a person is asking of their tyres and their car:
If extreme grip and ultimate feedback - then you won't be that satisfied with RFTs.
If decent, overall performance - then quite possibly satisfied, especially if a higher aspect fitted to a smaller rim (eg 225/50x16 rather than 225/40x18).
If reassurance that the good lady isn't going to get stranded at midnight with a flat in a dodgy part of town - then certainly satisfied.
(And anyone who hasn't had a puncture in 30 years of driving is most fortunate indeed.)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not endorsing RFTs and I do think there is better rubber to choose from; but I am a little amazed at the way so many people jump on the 'ditch them at all costs' bandwagon without considering a person's individual requirements.

I've replaced RFTs with standard rubber on the E85, but my wife's last two cars have specifically had RFTs fitted and I've never encountered a problem when driving her cars enthusiastically :driving: , though I do think the zed is more sensitive to its tyres than a Mini, and more likely to suffer tramlining. From experience, more so with RFTs on 18" rims compared to 16".

These links are a little interesting
https://blackboots.co.uk/portfolio-item/bmw-run-flat-problems/
https://blackboots.co.uk/portfolio-item/tram-lining/

Right then, I'm off to find out what my wife is doing visiting a flat on the dodgy side of town at midnight... :x
 
highway1 said:
I've never had a puncture on the road in 30 years of driving but in case you do, just buy a £5 repair and go can or carry a space saver replacement that you'll 99% likely never use!
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That has to be a record :thumbsup:
Carrying a spacesacer isn’t an option unless you want to leave your punctured full sized wheel at the side of the road or travel with it on your passengers lap.
As for the can of hunk and a pump, who knows what effect it might have on the pressure sensors?
 
ronk said:
As for the can of hunk and a pump, who knows what effect it might have on the pressure sensors?
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OP's car is from 2005, flat tyre monitoring is done by the wheel speed sensors.

Even if it did have sensors inside the tyres they are available for less than the difference between runflats and regular tyres.
 
Never seen so many makes recommended in 1 thread...

You have 4 very small (compared to the car) bits of rubber between you & your maker... buy the best you can afford... & for my penny’s worth go Michelin, once tried you’ll understand what all the fuss is about
 
I couldn’t see it was an older type (using my phone) in which case a small pump and a can of gunk is the way to go - although the tyre is probably goosed as tyre places find it difficult to locate the hole in the rubber.
 
I don't see RFT as a bad thing per say, it depends on the car and what you are looking for. I had RFT on my Mini and changed to non RFT, the comfort increased considerably but the car rolled more on corners. I compensated by changing to lowered and stiffened eibach springs. Less roll but comfort is about the same as std springs with RFT. I have tried both RFT and non RFT back to back on my Z4. RFT are horrible at handling bumps and tramline chronically. The non runflats are more comfortable, don't tramline but the car does appear to roll more (but not to a degree that bothers me). My wife's E91 executive model has runflats and is perfectly comfortable, doesn't tramline but the car rolls too much for me (the springs appear very thin gauge, presumably to compensate) I am unlikely to change it away from runflats.
 
Magicarcher said:
I don't see RFT as a bad thing per say, it depends on the car and what you are looking for. I had RFT on my Mini and changed to non RFT, the comfort increased considerably but the car rolled more on corners. I compensated by changing to lowered and stiffened eibach springs. Less roll but comfort is about the same as std springs with RFT. I have tried both RFT and non RFT back to back on my Z4. RFT are horrible at handling bumps and tramline chronically. The non runflats are more comfortable, don't tramline but the car does appear to roll more (but not to a degree that bothers me). My wife's E91 executive model has runflats and is perfectly comfortable, doesn't tramline but the car rolls too much for me (the springs appear very thin gauge, presumably to compensate) I am unlikely to change it away from runflats.
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Comments I'd pretty much agree with.
The link I included in a post above has some interesting comment about BMW spring rates and RFTs
 
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