New M140i collected
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Z4M-2006 said:
The A45 and especially the RS3 are a bit more expensive. The discounts on the M140i is about 25% so they are massive bang for the buck.
4wd is always going to be a different driving experience to RWD.
I enjoyed my A45. It's just a bit too easy to drive and to hit that fun element it usually means silly speeds. Personally I think that is why most people go for the A45, Golf R and RS3. Anyone can be quick in one of those without much ability.
The Mlites are also cheaper to run. My M235i didn't need it's first service until around 23,000 miles and it was £235. The A45 is usually half that on mileage and the prices aren't far off double. All the consumable parts are very much AMG priced.
The M235i is also more frugal than the A45 even with 2 more cylinders and an extra 1l capacity.
The A45 turns heads and gets lot of attention. It does get a bit tedious with every VAG driver in the world wanting a race. The M235i doesn't face the same issues.
The Golf R did nothing for me. It's a competent tool that didn't excite me much at all.
I've not driven the latest 400bhp RS3, but the 360bhp last version was also a bit stale. Audi appear to like to set their cars up to feel safe and steady.
That’s incredible that the same oil is left in an engine for 23,000 miles ..even more so with a turbo.
Conversely I have found my C63 much cheaper to run than any of my M cars ..
10 litres of oil and oil filter is £48 from Mercedes main dealer, twin air filters and pollen filters under £40..
Does the M140 have an LSD fitted or is it open diff ?
Or has it an Ediff in?
Beeman, what was the running costs of the A45 AMG?
I have been offered one that is nice spec at decent money...
Tax, fuel , do they tear through tyres and brakes?
Conversely I have found my C63 much cheaper to run than any of my M cars ..
10 litres of oil and oil filter is £48 from Mercedes main dealer, twin air filters and pollen filters under £40..
Does the M140 have an LSD fitted or is it open diff ?
Or has it an Ediff in?
Beeman, what was the running costs of the A45 AMG?
I have been offered one that is nice spec at decent money...
Tax, fuel , do they tear through tyres and brakes?
Beerman said:mr wilks said:Beerman said:
ScandalousBmw spec oil covering 23k in a turbo
It is pushing it a bit.
My N54 wasn't far short of that either and they are easily lasting huge mileage.
Hhmmm , not sure you can correlate the cars that seemingly cover huge mileages & "lasting " following the intended manufacturers service regime :?
Highly likely as the cars pass out of pay monthly PCP/ lease deals in warranty onto private owners that the service regime is taken over by common sense with more sympathetic upkeep ie interim oil changes :wink:
mr wilks said:Beerman said:mr wilks said:Scandalous
It is pushing it a bit.
My N54 wasn't far short of that either and they are easily lasting huge mileage.
Hhmmm , not sure you can correlate the cars that seemingly cover huge mileages & "lasting " following the intended manufacturers service regime :?
Highly likely as the cars pass out of pay monthly PCP/ lease deals in warranty onto private owners that the service regime is taken over by common sense with more sympathetic upkeep ie interim oil changes :wink:
Usually once cars pass out of their warranty maintenance gets even worse. It was a hard job to find Z4 Coupe with anything near a decent history. Even approaching people claiming to be enthusiasts their service regimes were bare minimum. 3-4 years between any servicing is common.
The N54 and N55 both run low pressure turbos and spend most of their life lazing around at very low revs. The oil isn't taking as much of a beating. Some of the lazy V8s go much further between intervals.
If I see a condition based BMW going 20,000 miles between servicing I'd guess it's had an easy life/sympathetic owner. If they've got 10,000 intervals I'd guess it's been ragged a lot without much care.
Interim oil changes are worthwhile. They wouldn't be done at a garage at dealer prices. You don't need to budget £250-300 every xxx miles. The A45 you are committed to an expensive service programme.
Interesting as my Clubman JCW essentially has the 170KW 230hp BMW B48 which is the same engine which is going into the new G29 Z4 sDrive30i and is used across the BMW range on all sorts of cars in differing power levels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B48
Ive just hit my first service scheduled at 9000 miles not 23k. It is the first service so im not sure if the schedule will then increase.
Its ridiculous that the service schedule is that higher milage. Surely its a time limit and up to 23k? I dont think I would like more than 12k on an oil change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_B48
Ive just hit my first service scheduled at 9000 miles not 23k. It is the first service so im not sure if the schedule will then increase.
Its ridiculous that the service schedule is that higher milage. Surely its a time limit and up to 23k? I dont think I would like more than 12k on an oil change.
Woots said:
The service pack isn't worth it for most people unless you do big miles and squeeze the second service based on mileage.
For most people the 3 year service pack on an Mlite only covers one service that should cost less anyway. BMW won't change the brake fluid at 3 years on the 3 year service plan which is cheeky.
