New Battery Problem Registering with Carly

[road warrior]

lovely, now where does it say .. "even if the replacement battery is absolutely identical" you have to waste a part of your life telling the cpu its identical in every way ? i feel like Dave Lister feels when he talks to Rimmer. Are you going to put me on a charge ? No wait .. not a charge, :headbang:
as TIS so elequently explains.. "intelligent battery sensor and battery" IF its intellegent WHY you have to tell it ?

i wonder... if you cover a seat with an identical seat cover do you have to tell carly ? or the wife, or the bank manager , or the bad taste god?
see below for proof of my existance.
as for BMW saying register it - i rather suspect a VISIT TO THE DEALER is imagined - ca ching..
If a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound ?

Do bears s**t in the woods
Has the pope got a balcony ?
Does it count if you just scan irrelevent documentation to prove god exists ? oke:

should i get out more ? should i get out less ?

ahh i hear the frantic banging of keyboards from here :rofl:

poking aside - i see absolutely no mention of identical battery fitting instructions, why would there be ?

TELL YOU WHAT. this is a challenge to all OCD folk ( might be one or two on here i suspect)
when you replace your battery next with IDENTICAL specifications, run it for a MONTH without telling carly or his mates like TIS, and measure battery (SOC) capacity THEN tell the computer you have a NEW shiny identical battery and after another month see if there is a differance.

 

[Chippie]

Notice! Register battery replacement
After installing a new battery, the service function 'Register battery replacement' should be run. The battery replacement has to be registered in order to tell the power management system that a new battery has been installed in the vehicle. If the battery replacement is not registered, the power management will not function properly, with the result that Check Control messages may be displayed and functions limited by individual electrical consumers being switched off or having their power consumption reduced, for example.

Would BMW expect you to fit a different amperage battery? Probably not
Do they expect replacing with the same? Probably, so they give instructions to register it.

 

[B21]

Notice! Register battery replacement
After installing a new battery, the service function 'Register battery replacement' should be run. The battery replacement has to be registered in order to tell the power management system that a new battery has been installed in the vehicle. If the battery replacement is not registered, the power management will not function properly, with the result that Check Control messages may be displayed and functions limited by individual electrical consumers being switched off or having their power consumption reduced, for example.

Would BMW expect you to fit a different amperage battery? Probably not
Do they expect replacing with the same? Probably, so they give instructions to register it.

You're wasting your time (as I have)..probably in the same 60 cigarettes a day never did my Dad any harm etc..since he can't read or maybe English comprehension wasn't his strong point... oke: :headbang:

Key point for all others ..pls register a replacement battery, and if its different capacity code it then register it!

 

[axelleveau]

Sharing some knowledge for old-folks scared of zappy electrons as it is close to me everyday at work (no wonders EVs are not welcomed...):
-A new battery, even if identical make, model and capacity is in fact NOT the same, if it were then the old battery would not need changing as it would hold charge and crank just fine!
-The old battery has suffered three things: a loss of capacity, an increase of resistance (lower cranking amps) and an increase in self-discharge (dies on it own when car is parked)
-The car continuously adapts to that evolution and will adjust by keeping SOC to a higher/lower/narrower level and/or charge more gently and such, hence the need to tell it a new battery has been installed so it can reset and re-learn, sorry things have changed since the 80s :driving:

 

[RobbiZ4]

As said: :rofl:

Well, interestig myth.

Some additional background infos for interested members. Ignorers should ignore it! :headbang:

Registering means resetting & updating most of the (old) battery statistics collected inside of the DME.
https://www-zroadster-com.translate.goog/forum/threads/batterie-im-winterlager-ohne-220v-anschluss-laden.147214/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=de&_x_tr_pto=wapp#post-3613426

 

[Reamesy]

lovely, now where does it say .. "even if the replacement battery is absolutely identical" you have to waste a part of your life telling the cpu its identical in every way ? i feel like Dave Lister feels when he talks to Rimmer. Are you going to put me on a charge ? No wait .. not a charge, :headbang:
as TIS so elequently explains.. "intelligent battery sensor and battery" IF its intellegent WHY you have to tell it ?

i wonder... if you cover a seat with an identical seat cover do you have to tell carly ? or the wife, or the bank manager , or the bad taste god?
see below for proof of my existance.
as for BMW saying register it - i rather suspect a VISIT TO THE DEALER is imagined - ca ching..
If a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound ?

Do bears s**t in the woods
Has the pope got a balcony ?
Does it count if you just scan irrelevent documentation to prove god exists ? oke:

should i get out more ? should i get out less ?

ahh i hear the frantic banging of keyboards from here :rofl:

poking aside - i see absolutely no mention of identical battery fitting instructions, why would there be ?

TELL YOU WHAT. this is a challenge to all OCD folk ( might be one or two on here i suspect)
when you replace your battery next with IDENTICAL specifications, run it for a MONTH without telling carly or his mates like TIS, and measure battery (SOC) capacity THEN tell the computer you have a NEW shiny identical battery and after another month see if there is a differance.

You asked for proof. You were given proof. It’s up to you what you do with it.

If you don’t like it. Then don’t follow it. Simples. Anyone else it’s there for a reason.

For a 5 min solution, why risk a £100-200 battery. We know how fussy the car can be over battery health.

 

[enuff_zed]

lovely, now where does it say .. "even if the replacement battery is absolutely identical" you have to waste a part of your life telling the cpu its identical in every way ? i feel like Dave Lister feels when he talks to Rimmer. Are you going to put me on a charge ? No wait .. not a charge, :headbang:
as TIS so elequently explains.. "intelligent battery sensor and battery" IF its intellegent WHY you have to tell it ?

i wonder... if you cover a seat with an identical seat cover do you have to tell carly ? or the wife, or the bank manager , or the bad taste god?
see below for proof of my existance.
as for BMW saying register it - i rather suspect a VISIT TO THE DEALER is imagined - ca ching..
If a tree falls in a forest does it make a sound ?

Do bears s**t in the woods
Has the pope got a balcony ?
Does it count if you just scan irrelevent documentation to prove god exists ? oke:

should i get out more ? should i get out less ?

ahh i hear the frantic banging of keyboards from here :rofl:

poking aside - i see absolutely no mention of identical battery fitting instructions, why would there be ?

TELL YOU WHAT. this is a challenge to all OCD folk ( might be one or two on here i suspect)
when you replace your battery next with IDENTICAL specifications, run it for a MONTH without telling carly or his mates like TIS, and measure battery (SOC) capacity THEN tell the computer you have a NEW shiny identical battery and after another month see if there is a differance.

You asked for proof. You were given proof. It’s up to you what you do with it.

If you don’t like it. Then don’t follow it. Simples. Anyone else it’s there for a reason.

For a 5 min solution, why risk a £100-200 battery. We know how fussy the car can be over battery health.

I believe Mr Road Warrior's experience is with the E85, which does not have the same IBS and therefore doesn't need all this coding. The E89 does.
However, don't worry about it because if he does try his own suggestion then in a month he will have reached the edge of the world and fallen off.

 

[RobbiZ4]

...then in a month he will have reached the edge of the world and fallen off.

I don't think so.

The whole IBS stuff came up with the start/stop functionality. The DME has to know the constitution of the car's battery before switching off the motor at a ( i.e.) crossing.

That's the reason why the DME is tracking each battery activity: loading, unloading, temperatures, histories etc.
It calculates the aging process in the background 24/7 and at least gives an advice on the dash to get it renewed after an individual time of usage.

If you don't reset this history, dashboard messages may reappear even with a new battery, as the system requires some time to adapt the condition of the new battery (SOC & QOC). It's indeed a learning curve, which again will arise over time.

It's not so critical for "our" E89's, as there is no start/stop function implemented on the 6-pot engines. The 4-pot's indeed were delivered with this functionality and require this "reset"/registering.

One of the IBS develepment manager from BMW is living in Munich and drives a 6-pot E89 Z4 as well.

 

[enuff_zed]

...then in a month he will have reached the edge of the world and fallen off.

I don't think so.

The whole IBS stuff came up with the start/stop functionality. The DME has to know the constitution of the car's battery before switching off the motor at a ( i.e.) crossing.

That's the reason why the DME is tracking each battery activity: loading, unloading, temperatures, histories etc.
It calculates the aging process in the background 24/7 and at least gives an advices on the dash to get it renewed after an individual time of usage.

If you don't reset this history, dashoard messages may reappear even with a new battery, as the system requires some time to adapt the condition of the new battery (SOC & QOC). It's indeed a learning curve, which again will arise over time.

It's not so critical for "our" E89's, as there is no start/stop function implemented on the 6-pot engines. The 4-pot's indeed were delivered with this functionality and require this "reset"/registering.

One of the IBS develepment manager from BMW is living in Munich and drives a 6-pot E89 Z4 as well.

 

[DonDon]

It's not so critical for "our" E89's, as there is no start/stop function implemented on the 6-pot engines. The 4-pot's indeed were delivered with this functionality and require this "reset"/registering.

My 2013 28i doesn't have start / stop. So is this something that a previous owner has coded out?

 

[flybobbie]

We survived for years changing dead battery at 25 months as the 24 month warranty just ran out.....

 

[flybobbie]

My Foxwell asked, as battery capacity changed...yes or no.
I put no for 70ahr.

 

[RobbiZ4]

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[RobbiZ4]

It's not so critical for "our" E89's, as there is no start/stop function implemented on the 6-pot engines. The 4-pot's indeed were delivered with this functionality and require this "reset"/registering.

My 2013 28i doesn't have start / stop. So is this something that a previous owner has coded out?

My former assumption seems to be based on a lack of knowledge, thanks for updating.

Start/Stop is not only a coding option, it's represented by a physical button next to the roof open/close buttons.