N52 2,5 oil consumption

Martin Knud

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 Espergaerde, Denmark
N52 2,5 engine was using 1 liter of oil every 1000-1500 km with 5-30 viscosity.
I am now using Castrol Magnatec 5-40, and oil consumption is less with 1 liter per 2500-3000 km.
Would like to decrease consumption more.
Have you tried Castrol 10-60?
Change oil every 10k km so i don't think it have to be LL4.
 
BMW say 0.8l per 1k km is perfectly fine and it just seems to be the case with a lot of their engines that they burn small amounts of oil.
 
0,8 l oil used every 1000 km is not a small amount.
Its not a M or a race car...
Has anyone tried Castrol 10-60 oil in their oil consuming N52 engines?
 
I can’t see the problem with using oil as long as it’s within the manufactures tolerances. My 3.0si uses about a litre every 2000 miles it tells me when I need to pop a litre in so not really a problem. Also occasional top up with fresh oil.
 
simon1963 said:
I can’t see the problem with using oil as long as it’s within the manufactures tolerances. My 3.0si uses about a litre every 2000 miles it tells me when I need to pop a litre in so not really a problem. Also occasional top up with fresh oil.

It’s not good for the sparkplugs or the cats to be coated in burnt oil, as well as the added carbon on the valves/combustion chamber-piston rings can also gum up & stick in their grooves due to oil burning :(
Rob
 
My E91 325i with the same 2.5 litre N52 engine used 2 litres in 7,000 miles (approx. 11,000km) - mind you it had done 132K miles when I bought it so that seemed pretty reasonable to me!
 
My 3.0Si doesn’t use any either...well certainly less than 0.5l in 6,000miles (5W 30). In response to the earlier question, there is no way I would be tempted to use a 60 weight oil where a 30 weight is specified. None of the bearing clearances will be correct for a 60.
 
I just had a look, and my 3.0Si has used 2 litres since it's last service 2 years and 7,200 miles ago.
It's just coming up to 90K miles.

My 1st 3.0Si didn't need any topping up in 2 years and 8,000 miles, but it had only done 62K miles when I (foolishly) sold it.
 
I just put in 400ml to top mine up and it has done 6,500km (4,000m) since the last oil change. I use a semi synthetic 10-40. Odometer is 41,000km and I have the oil changed every 10,000km.

My mechanic advised that in his experience, BMW N-series engines are known to use oil and that it is nothing to be concerned about. In his opinion, there is not appreciable benefit in using full synthetic oil in the N-52 as they will just use more of it!

I had a lengthy conversation with the mechanic that did the pre-purchase inspection my car, around modern oils, engines and service intervals. He managed the BMW dealership garage in Auckland for 20 years before going independent. His opinion was that thin, synthetic oils where not good for modern engines regardless of what the manufacturer stated. He said their motivations were not always based on what was best of the engine, but rather what legislation/ regulation they needed to meet around emissions and fuel consumption as well as buyer perceptions i.e. longer service intervals meant cars must be better. He said there was increasing examples in modern, (mainly European cars) where engines were having catastrophic failures that had followed the manufactures service intervals.

Although not a performance car, he noted that the NZ fleet of St Johns ambulances were having serious issues with engine life, (Mercedes Sprinters) and all were using thin oil recommended by Mercedes. He said they were having engines fail/ wear out at 200-300 thousand km. They changed back to a heavier full mineral oil and now the engines are lasting in excess of 500 thousand km. Fully appreciate they are diesel engines, but very interesting, nevertheless.
 
Mr Tidy said:
I just had a look, and my 3.0Si has used 2 litres since it's last service 2 years and 7,200 miles ago.
It's just coming up to 90K miles.

My 1st 3.0Si didn't need any topping up in 2 years and 8,000 miles, but it had only done 62K miles when I (foolishly) sold it.

Almost a warning there but it's only a Coo Pee! :rofl:

Mine will have done about 5000 miles between oil changes. Millers Nanodrive fully synthetic.
 
Thank you all 3 l owners.
I know almost all of you dont have issues with exaggerated oil consumption.
That's because the internals are different to the 2,5 l.
Please dont post any more "I can do 1 million miles without adding oil" messages... 👍😊
 
Sorry if I missed it, but what is the mileage on the engine?

Have you checked the CCV system?

As already stated, I would not put TWS anywhere near an N52 as the clearances are completely wrong.
 
2.5 and 3.0 are essentially the same engine just with a slightly longer stroke.

Just for the record, my 2.5Si uses about 500ml per 1000 Miles - and more if I am really pushing on. It doesn't smoke, has no issues with emissions and I run it on 5W30. A low ash oil prevents a lot of the carbon deposits and the higher oil smoke temp compared to a mineral oil will help as well.

I did try it on 10W30 to see if this would reduce oil consumption and it made virtually no difference. I would stick with the published viscosity and just change the oil at the correct intervals.
 
I wouldnt go to 60 viscosity as that is a bit thick. Modern cars use thinner oil as that reduces friction and aids performance and emissions. As the engine wears then the thinner oils will start to get passed piston rings etc and you will start burning it and notice the oil gets dirtier much quicker (thats assuming you have a dipstick and can check it). Its perfectly acceptable to step up a notch to say 10/40 but I wouldnt go any higher. Why dont you try a can of Wynns super charger in the engine. Dont believe all the bunk about it giving extra power etc etc, but I can testify that it does quiten a noisy engine and reduce oil consumption.
 
Martin Knud said:
N52 2,5 engine was using 1 liter of oil every 1000-1500 km with 5-30 viscosity.
I am now using Castrol Magnatec 5-40, and oil consumption is less with 1 liter per 2500-3000 km.
Would like to decrease consumption more.
Have you tried Castrol 10-60?
Change oil every 10k km so i don't think it have to be LL4.

If you have already reduced consumption simply by changing spec & you are already considering a second switch is it not worth trying a better quality oil ?
Ive only had 2 cars in the last 20 years that "burned" or consumed oil , both were Vag turbos , both everyday commuter cars ( not raced )
Switched to Millers prompted by a VW forum post & consumption ceased , since then ive never used any other oil but Millers in any of my cars & my understanding is their products are now even better
Worth trying one of their triple ester oils such as CFS 10w40 https://www.millersoils-shop.co.uk/cfs-10w40-engine-oil
I notice "Skelters" above is on the Nano Millers which is a triple ester i believe :? on all Si Zs ive owned 5w30 Millers Trident has always been good enough but then ive never had one that consumed oil like washer fluid :D
 
Mate of mine who's not on the forum also has a 3.0si Roadster. He also uses the Millers Nanodrive oils and has not had any issues with oil consumption.

I'd recommend Opie Oils as I've always had great service from them....
https://www.opieoils.co.uk/
 
620turbo said:
Sorry if I missed it, but what is the mileage on the engine?

Have you checked the CCV system?

As already stated, I would not put TWS anywhere near an N52 as the clearances are completely wrong.

Engine has done 69000 km
I have not checked the CCV system.
will have to Google that.
What doesTWS stand for?
 
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