MoT changes?

lacroupade

Veteran
Anyone seen anything definitive about changes in Jan 2012 arising from the long list of changes mooted earlier this year?

Just been chatting to the owner of my local garage - unfortunately I couldn't remember at the time what had been proposed so didn't follow up the questioning, but he tells me that three definite fails from Jan 1 are (i) aftermarket HIDs without automatic suspension correction and/or headlamp washers, (ii) dashboard warning light for airbag or SRS failure, and surprisingly (iii) any EML.

So there you go.....
 
Those with after market HIDs I spoke to mention it was just going to be one more thing to do prior to an MOT ...
 
There was also something about cars that were manufactured with cats needing a cat to pass - whether the emissions without the cat are below the limit or not.

Had aftermarket HIDs on my e34 M5s, but they had both self-levelling suspension and headlight washers.
 
There were other thingh proposed, like chipped ECUs and as you say, cats and EGRs removed, but thats why I wish I'd remembered and asked about them too. Doesn't seem to be anything available on the net at the moment about exact details of the 2012 test. I only know those I mentioned because they've come from an MoT tester who has been formally notified of same.
 
Its even more confusing when you read the PROPOSED 2012 rules on the DVLA website....for HIDs for example it talks about leveling and washing systems being operational when fitted....not that its a failure to have HIDs and no associated systems.... :headbang: I mean the guy seemed certain of his facts but what does that mean......I too have been accused of being delusional at times LOL

http://www.dft.gov.uk/vosa/repository/MOT%20Inspection%20Manual.pdf
 
My understanding of the MOT rules was always that if you had something fitted then it should work. So, for example, if you had 12 numberplate lights they'd all have to work, even though 1 could be sufficient. Although saying that, am I right in thinking front fog lights aren't tested and so can be non-functional?

I was being followed by somebody with aftermarket HIDs the other day and they were all over the shop so I see this change as a good thing. I toyed with reporting said driver to the Police, but more for his kamikaze overtake on a bend, in a thirty, in the dark. But without another witness, it would go nowhere.

Perhaps I should have done it so the statistics are more accurate?
 
James_G said:
I was being followed by somebody with aftermarket HIDs the other day and they were all over the shop so I see this change as a good thing. I toyed with reporting said driver to the Police, but more for his kamikaze overtake on a bend, in a thirty, in the dark. But without another witness, it would go nowhere.
How did you verify they were aftermarket HIDs and not bouncing due to a fault.

My aftermarket HIDs on the M5 didn't bounce around anywhere near as much as they do on the Z4 - but that's probably due to the Z4 being a much choppier ride.

I'm all for stopping anyone from blinding other road users, but I see more and more motorbikes and cars driving around with full beam on, who don't bother turning them off when other traffic approaches. Banning aftermarket HIDs won't stop this. The test simply needs to ensure the beam cut-off and aim is correct, then it shouldn't matter what type of bulb you use.
 
James_G said:
My understanding of the MOT rules was always that if you had something fitted then it should work.
better fix my radio then.... :D
 
mmm-five said:
James_G said:
I was being followed by somebody with aftermarket HIDs the other day and they were all over the shop so I see this change as a good thing. I toyed with reporting said driver to the Police, but more for his kamikaze overtake on a bend, in a thirty, in the dark. But without another witness, it would go nowhere.
How did you verify they were aftermarket HIDs and not bouncing due to a fault.

It was a 1995 Honda Civic Esi, so can't have been standard, and one was a different colour to the other. Plus the car was wrapped in matt black, had those hideous jap wheels with the red rims and a stupid exhaust so you can tell that it's going to be a duff install can't you. I only saw all this when we got to the next town of course.
 
gookah said:
James_G said:
My understanding of the MOT rules was always that if you had something fitted then it should work.
better fix my radio then.... :D

although technically not fitted, your spare tyre can be a bald as a coot and the car will still pass.

Regarding ECU mods, I can't see how an MOT station could tell when even main dealer haven't a clue.
 
Here's the new changes as posted on PH...


AA 2012 MOT Changes said:
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice/car-servicing-repair/mot-changes-2012.html

If you've been happily ignoring a warning light because it's not checked in the MOT you could be facing an MOT failure and an expensive repair bill in 2012 because of changes to the test.

The Department for Transport is adding a number of new mandatory test items to the annual MOT from 1 January 2012 to comply with a revised European testing directive.

The aim of the revised directive (2009/40/EC) is to harmonise minimum test requirements across Europe and make sure the test reflects the electrical/electronic complexity of modern car safety features.

VOSA, the government agency responsible for the MOT, has indicated that 'failures' relating to the new test items will be treated as 'advisories' in the first three months. This means that if you have any of the following problems with your car you've got until the first MOT renewal date after 1 April 2012 to get it fixed.

The new items are:

Electronic parking brake
Electronic parking brake controls are now included and must be present and not inappropriately repaired or modified - repair obviously likely to adversely affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle or modification that has seriously weakened the component.

(The 'inappropriately repaired or modified' check is to be applied to a wide range of systems and components throughout the vehicle.)

The car will fail if an Electronic Parking Brake warning lamp is illuminated to indicate a malfunction.

Electronic Stability Control
Checks of antilock brakes will be extended to include Electronic Stability Control if fitted. The tester will check for the presence and correct operation of the ESC malfunction warning light together with looking for obviously missing, excessively damaged or inappropriately repaired or modified components and electrical wiring, as well as an ESC switch missing, insecure or faulty.

Warning lights
As well as electronic parking brake and electronic stability control warning lights (where fitted) the MOT test will also include checks for the correct function of the following, where fitted;

Headlight main beam warning light
Electronic power steering warning light
Brake fluid level warning light
Tyre pressure monitoring system warning light
Air bag warning light
Seat belt pre-tensioner warning light
Steering & suspension
The new test includes a check on the presence and correct function of the steering lock where fitted as standard.

Missing, or split/damaged dust covers on steering and suspension ball-joints will result in failure if they will allow dirt to enter the joint.

Power steering fluid level must be above the minimum level indicated on the reservoir.

Lighting
Products on the lens or light source that obviously reduce the light's intensity or change its colour will become a reason for failure – applies to front/rear position lamps, registration plate lamps, stop lamps, rear fog and direction indicators,

Headlight requirements are updated to take account of the particular characteristics of High Intensity Discharge (HID) lamps.

HID headlights can cause dazzle if they are dirty or aimed too high so car manufacturers must fit headlamp cleaning and levelling systems. A car will fail if a mandatory headlamp cleaning or levelling system is missing, doesn't work or is obviously defective.

Vehicles fitted with aftermarket HID systems must also be fitted with properly working washer and levelling systems.

If a headlamp bulb is not seated correctly the resulting beam pattern will be indistinct and this will result in a test fail.

Electrical wiring and battery
An insecure battery will be a reason for failure as will a battery that is leaking electrolyte.

Visible wiring that is insecure, inadequately supported or likely to cause a short will also result in a failure as will wires bared by damaged insulation.

Trailer/caravan electrical socket
There will be a basic security/damage check of 7-pin sockets,

13-pin sockets will be subject to a full electrical connectivity check and incorrectly connected or inoperative circuits will result in failure.

Tyres
Tyre pressure monitoring systems fitted to vehicles first registered after 1 January 2012 must be working correctly and not indicating a malfunction.

Supplementary restraints
The vehicle will fail the test if any airbag fitted as original equipment is obviously missing or defective.

A seatbelt pre-tensioner fitted as original equipment but missing or that has obviously deployed will be a reason for failure.

Seatbelt load limiters that are missing where fitted as standard or folding webbing type limiters that have obviously deployed are also reasons for failure.

The vehicle will also fail if an SRS malfunction light is missing, not working or indicating a fault.

Speedometer
The car will fail if a speedometer is not fitted, is incomplete, inoperative, has a dial glass broken/missing or cannot be illuminated.

Seats
It must be possible to secure the driver's seat fore and aft adjustment mechanism in two or three different positions. On electric seats the motors must move the seat fore and aft.

Doors
A rear door that cannot be opened from the outside using the relevant control is a new reason for failure.

Doors must be easy to open and close – hinges, catches and pillars will be inspected.

Towbars
Inappropriate repair or modification to the towbar assembly will be a reason for failure if judged likely to affect the roadworthiness of the vehicle/trailer.

Exhaust
A catalytic convertor fitted as original equipment but missing will be a reason for failure.

Fuel system
Damaged or chafed fuel pipes will result in failure.

That's potentially a whole lot more items that used car trader or dealer will need to factor in their pre-sale preparations - which will have an effect upon used car trade in values and not a good one, as if things are rosy at the moment as it is.
 
Tinted rear lights, HID lights and removed cats are going to be the ones that will catch a lot.

There will be a big trade in pre-MOT mods to get it through it. This was already the case in NL a number of years ago when garages stocked EU approved headlights to swap out for just MOT purposes as a lot of cars were imported from the US and Canada which were not approved in Europe.
 
According to the AA blurb you'll only get an advisory if you fail on one of these new items in its first 3 months of implementation. So you'll have another year to get them sorted. No excuse then.
 
Products applied to light lenses and light sources (lamps) that change their colour, Does that mean silver/chrome coated indicator lamps, that look better than orange lamps?(bulbs_)
 
You mean the MOT that is already more than twice the price of the European equivalent ... :x
 
mmm-five said:
According to the AA blurb you'll only get an advisory if you fail on one of these new items in its first 3 months of implementation. So you'll have another year to get them sorted. No excuse then.


Problem is, it is just AA blurb. I'm not saying it isn't reasonably accurate (I believe it is), but til I see it in full on a DVLA or kosher MoT site its not going to be 100% clear. My tame MoT tester didn't mention anything about three months grace for example, and I don't recall such a thing ever having been part of any previous MoT updates, so I suspect that element might be conjecture.....
 
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