Pbondar said:
Chippie said:Pbondar said:
Not met him but I’ll take your word for it
On a more serious note, I don’t know why Craig and Peter have had such a disagreement, I’ve met both and enjoyed their company, but I do feel it’s a little harsh to exclude Craig from any meets organised by Peter, surely both parties can be big enough to tolerate each other, even if not speaking, if a meet is promoted on this forum then it should be open to any forum member to attend. Life is really too short
Flyingfifer said:
And even though you concur with my lovely dear departed old granny you can :rcard: :rcard: 
right off 
Chippie said:Pbondar said:
Not t met him but I’ll take your word for it
Chippie said:Pbondar said:
Not met him but I’ll take your word for it
On a more serious note, I don’t know why Craig and Peter have had such a disagreement, I’ve met both and enjoyed their company, but I do feel it’s a little harsh to exclude Craig from any meets organised by Peter, surely both parties can be big enough to tolerate each other, even if not speaking, if a meet is promoted on this forum then it should be open to any forum member to attend. Life is really too short
Pbondar said:Chippie said:Pbondar said:
Hi Chippie,
How and why this situation arose is frankly irrelevant, and to an extent involves personal issues that I think is best not to discussed in an open forum, safe to say it was brewing for a considerable period of time and there were many instances and issues that lead to that point. It wasn't a decision I took lightly..
Personally I'm neither mercurial nor do I hold grudges. This matter falls into only 4 recollectable events in my life. :thumbsdown:
So, I have no desire, need, wish to see Craig not hold his own runs and particpate in any he so chooses.
To clarify a factual point.
I've never excluded Craig from any runs I've organised.
In contrast Craig has implictly excluded me from the penultimate event he organsied and explicitly from the final event of 2020 he organised. That of course is his perogative.
Going forward, some Forum members have privately stipulated that they won't attend runs that Craig is either organising or participating in. It places the run organiser therefore in an invidous position, which I'm sure you can understand.
On the other hand, obviously, there are many people who enjoy Craig's company and his methods of managing and organising runs, and long may that continue.
So I think its quite good in a perverse way (if unintended to be such a public spat) as now everyone is clear as to why the Craig and Peter party has runs its course. There were many good times and i thank Craig for taking me under his arm to get a newbie going!
So please do not feel, from my perspective that your 'loyalty' is being tested in any form if you attend any or all of Craig's runs..you are welcome to attend any events I arrange withou prejudice in any form..
Firstly, Peter you accused me of things that weren't true,that I had asked to get your threads removed.
I didn't, Fact.
Secondly,you posted these false accusations on An Open Forum,knowing full well what that may ensue,and unfortunately has!
What's more,you had Runs arranged in Private that I was Actively Not given info on.
Therefore I couldn't, if I wanted to,attend those Runs you had in September and October.
Fact,that I can back up.
Also,at No point did I stop you from attending the two meets that I did.
In regard to the September meet I had,you only asked for the Route plan,which I was still tweeking,and as you well know,I have never given out Route info in advance, for various reasons.
You knew the Start point,etc as its exactly the same as the previous 2 or 3 meets that I had starting from Moffat,so you were more than Free to attend.
In ref to the other meet I did,was The National, which you have attended a few times at least,and which all can see on 10 years/11 meets worth of info on here Starts in Crooklands,it was all up on the thread.
So quite clearly, there was nothing stopping you attending that either.
To be quite frank,I am sick of all this, and will post no more on it,as it has caused me no end of upset.
For those who are interested ,I have various one day runs listed under my thread "Scottish meets 2021" which are all listed together. Updated the other day, with a couple more added.
I will put Individual threads up soon.
Hopefully we can all move on from this,and enjoy some runs in each others company.
All the best everyone
Probocop said:
Probocop said:Argyll Andy said:Probocop said:
TF this is for Coupes only, only thing I can think of worse than FB
Flyingfifer said:Probocop said:Argyll Andy said:TF this is for Coupes only, only thing I can think of worse than FB
I think Grindr is more Andy's speed
Argyll Andy said:Flyingfifer said:Probocop said:
I think Grindr is more Andy's speed
Hawl you. I was refraining from going there in my response as I didn’t want to tar all Coupe owners with the same brush but as for you pair, all I’m going to say is I’m the only one that’s proved photographic evidence that I don’t use grinder, you pair on the other hand nada............... I’ll just leave that there with you pair and your Fiat 500
Probocop said:Argyll Andy said:Flyingfifer said:I think Grindr is more Andy's speed
Hawl you. I was refraining from going there in my response as I didn’t want to tar all Coupe owners with the same brush but as for you pair, all I’m going to say is I’m the only one that’s proved photographic evidence that I don’t use grinder, you pair on the other hand nada............... I’ll just leave that there with you pair and your Fiat 500
How do you think I met Wullie?
maxman said:
Pbondar said:Chippie said:Pbondar said:
Not met him but I’ll take your word for it
On a more serious note, I don’t know why Craig and Peter have had such a disagreement, I’ve met both and enjoyed their company, but I do feel it’s a little harsh to exclude Craig from any meets organised by Peter, surely both parties can be big enough to tolerate each other, even if not speaking, if a meet is promoted on this forum then it should be open to any forum member to attend. Life is really too short
Hi Chippie,
How and why this situation arose is frankly irrelevant, and to an extent involves personal issues that I think is best not to discussed in an open forum, safe to say it was brewing for a considerable period of time and there were many instances and issues that lead to that point. It wasn't a decision I took lightly..
Personally I'm neither mercurial nor do I hold grudges. This matter falls into only 4 recollectable events in my life. :thumbsdown:
So, I have no desire, need, wish to see Craig not hold his own runs and particpate in any he so chooses.
To clarify a factual point.
I've never excluded Craig from any runs I've organised.
In contrast Craig has implictly excluded me from the penultimate event he organsied and explicitly from the final event of 2020 he organised. That of course is his perogative.
Going forward, some Forum members have privately stipulated that they won't attend runs that Craig is either organising or participating in. It places the run organiser therefore in an invidous position, which I'm sure you can understand.
On the other hand, obviously, there are many people who enjoy Craig's company and his methods of managing and organising runs, and long may that continue.
So I think its quite good in a perverse way (if unintended to be such a public spat) as now everyone is clear as to why the Craig and Peter party has runs its course. There were many good times and i thank Craig for taking me under his arm to get a newbie going!
So please do not feel, from my perspective that your 'loyalty' is being tested in any form if you attend any or all of Craig's runs..you are welcome to attend any events I arrange withou prejudice in any form..
