Argyll Andy said:
craig3.2 said:
So according to Peter,
Those attending his runs dislike me,for various reasons,and that I Harrass them,into attending my meets?
So maybe those people can answer this,when have I harrassed Any if them into coming to my runs.....other than pm-ing etc to ask if they are coming, doesn't amount to harrassing!
People such as Yourself,
Andy Oldham, Maurice, Nick,Simon,Stuart/Peebles, plus Stuart Bell,Argyll Andy,John Thompson.....none of whom i have Actually ever met or harrassed to come on my runs.
Craig, I’m going to make a final response directly to you in relation to this so there’s no confusion from any party and make my position clear.
I’ve signed up to the runs that interest me and that
I want to do. I have signed up to most of the ones advertised (coincidentally by Peter) but have not signed up to a few because either the area of travel is too awkward from my location, the dates don’t suit or I have no interest in a particular run. There’s a few of Peter’s that start/end on completely the wrong location for me so I have shown no interest in them. There’s also ones like the Kintyre one that I’ve said I’ll attend in some form because it passes through my home location, but I won’t be driving all the way to Glasgow to drive back home partake in the run to drive back to Glasgow then turn round and drive back again.
To be clear the next statement is nothing personal in relation to you but the two you have posted up for next year do not interest me, hence why I haven’t signed up. The Ayrshire one because in a previous life I used to frequent Maybole regularly and the area doesn’t hold particularly pleasant memories for me so I’ve no desire to attend that area and the north of England one doesn’t appeal because of the location being quite a trek to start with before the run starts and the dates not suiting me. Neither of those reasons are anything to do with you and again to be clear
NOT because I’ve been turned against you by Peter as you imply in your post.
You may, or may not, recall I responded to you when you commented about me purchasing my new car that I had intended attending your run at that time, as my first one, but because I had arranged to trade my car in with a restriction on mileage so I couldn’t go. But those runs/dates/locations did interest me hence my intention to attend, regardless of organiser.
As my granny used to say, I’m big enough and ugly enough to make up my own mind and that applies to Z4 runs. I will attend any I want to that interest me and are possible regardless of who’s organising, or attending, as I’ve made abundantly clear on here many times I haven’t been on an organised car run ever so am looking forward to them and will continue as above. That may change if I attend and meet people who I think are @rses, or may indeed think I am and I wouldn’t be welcomed back. If that happens I will make decisions at about my attendance at future runs based on that. This will not be decided or dictated by anyone else. I have not met anyone on the forum and have no allegiances to anyone on here. I take people as I find them myself.
What I will not tolerate is being accused of being a member of secret groups or being on a SM platform that I don’t use or access or being guided/instructed by someone else and plotting against someone I don’t even know, yourself, have never met and truth be told only had had a few small general contacts with on an open forum until these direct interactions. :thumbsdown:
Good luck with your runs and if you advertise any in the future that interest me and everything falls in place I would register my interest in attending like I have done with the missing posts, which I do hope reappear, I can attend and are enjoyable
Andy
Andy,an honest post,
Other than,having never met you ,as mentioned, I was not obviously targeting yourself personally,just generalising. There are people who I know who have disappointed me in their actions,but also those who are/were unaware that I wouldn't be going to any if Peters meets or why.
Also,in Reference to what you quoted above,
I was replying to nictrix post.(not yours)
ALSO,I said that Peter had accused me of Harassing people to come to my meets,and included your name above,in relation to that.
I know for a fact this isn't True.....
I don't harass people, including yourself,to come to my meets. I simply invite on an Open thread/posts and also in Private messages,to bring things to people's attention,in case they missed it,as things can get mussed on here sometimes.
I certainly don't harass people sending them 100 messages and 50 phone calls,as that is not the case.
I think you can agree to that,that ,in regards to yourself,I have never harassed you into attending my meets.
If people want to come,then they will
I am not going to start naming nanes, because I don't feel the need to bring others into this none too pleasant thread at times,who obviously don't want to get embroiled in it.
As you say,some meets suit some people based on Location,etc and not who us organising.
Also,the first line of that quote....
A"According to Peter,those attending his runs don't like me or don't want anything to do with runs I am involved in".
This is something pbondar said to me directly,in texts,And his Reason for excluding myself from his meets......and his Reason for him starting his Private WhatsApp group.
Again,Peters opinion,which I disagree with,as I explained in my first responses to his accusations.
I also know that things are being said behind my back by certain people,as I have been told as much by others/have proof of same,
Which is why some people are turning against me,and Some people (not all),even some who haven't even met me,may be put off attending my runs due to what is being said about me in my absence.
I just think it's a crap thing to do,but it's life,I know that.
But ,given what Peter accused me of,I felt I had the right to reply,which I did.
Unfortunately,some people want to add fuel.to the fire/stir it more.
And if everyone else reading this, Actually Reads through it All Properly/fully, including my own Posts,they will see I have made very many Valid points.(and factual).
Your new car does look very nice,as I think I commented on in a thread?
Hopefully,all going well, get to see it in the flesh,and meet your good self
All the best, cheers
P.s,I have put a couple more meets/dates/locations out there,in the Scottish meets 2021 thread I originally put out in September.
Hopefully see you at one of them?
Attleborough, Norfolk
