Michelin Pilots (sport 2 or super sports) - M Sizes
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Looks great! Thanks for that. 
I think the 224s are a great looking wheel and really suit the car as well as providing plenty of cooling for the brakes.
When I bought my Z4MC in March 2012, it was shod with OEM Contis all round it needed two new rear tyres, but the fronts still had 6mm of tread on them. I intended doing a few mods to the suspension from the outset but didn't want any hassle with the set-up from different size tyres to OEM, and so that I knew where I was at with any changes I might make, I opted for a new pair of OEM Contis to keep the wheels/tyres OEM. I was looking at the rear tyres recently and noticed that one of the tyres that I bought in 2012 had a manufacturing date of week 32 in 2007 and the other was week 50 in 2010, so I went back to the supplier and complained that I had been sold old stock and therefore couldn't get a full lifetime of use from the tyres. They've agreed to replace those tyres with 2 new Michelin PSSs at no cost to me. I shall now replace the fronts with PSS 235s before I take the car to The Ring again in July. 
I think the 224s are a great looking wheel and really suit the car as well as providing plenty of cooling for the brakes.When I bought my Z4MC in March 2012, it was shod with OEM Contis all round it needed two new rear tyres, but the fronts still had 6mm of tread on them. I intended doing a few mods to the suspension from the outset but didn't want any hassle with the set-up from different size tyres to OEM, and so that I knew where I was at with any changes I might make, I opted for a new pair of OEM Contis to keep the wheels/tyres OEM. I was looking at the rear tyres recently and noticed that one of the tyres that I bought in 2012 had a manufacturing date of week 32 in 2007 and the other was week 50 in 2010, so I went back to the supplier and complained that I had been sold old stock and therefore couldn't get a full lifetime of use from the tyres. They've agreed to replace those tyres with 2 new Michelin PSSs at no cost to me.
I shall now replace the fronts with PSS 235s before I take the car to The Ring again in July. 
265/40/18 gives LOADS of sidewall on supersports..... i personally love the look more than low profile .. this is on a aggressive fitment et23 9.5" rim i cant comment on rubbing as my wild Geo / camber setups/stiff suspension hides it BUT im pretty certain you wont have a prob john on the stock rim ( i know you drive properly) ..... i now have the AD08R on...... ( PSS pictured )
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AFAIK all manufacturers do the same.gwatson said:I also like how continental put the manufactured date on their tyres
Anyway, here's mine on standard suspension with 265/40r18 PSS.
I've done about 50k on PSS tyres and other than a few 'rubs' on certain Nurburgring corners (before I replaced my bushes and fixed the alignment) they've been trouble free.
Byron, So do I. I hate seeing larger alloys fitted with thin elastic bands wrapped around them.Beedub said:
Thanks to all who have posted photos of the 265s fitted. I think I'll be OK, but since I'm running AC Schnitzer Racing suspension things might be slightly different? When the tyres are fitted, I'll jack the car up to maximum load a rear wheel so I'll then have the definitive answer. I want to keep the spacers because I like to have a wider track-width because I think the handling is better that way.
Hello Exdos,
I don't think you'll have any problems. I've had 265/40 18 Michelin PSS on the back of mine for the past couple of years and recently fitted KW v3 suspension. I've had no rubbing problems either before or after fitting the suspension and am not using spacers on the rear.
The car is slightly lower than standard as show below.
Cheers
I don't think you'll have any problems. I've had 265/40 18 Michelin PSS on the back of mine for the past couple of years and recently fitted KW v3 suspension. I've had no rubbing problems either before or after fitting the suspension and am not using spacers on the rear.
The car is slightly lower than standard as show below.
Cheers
I found that 265mm Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrics protruded from the bodywork with my track wheels (OEM 224s), 15mm spacers and Eibachs. I don't think yours will rub with 10mm spacers John, even on your ACS suspension, but I'd stick the OEM bolts and locking key in the boot just in case.
I've now got the PSSs on the rear of the car and with the 10mm spacers the wheels protrude from the bodywork. I'd got minimal rear camber so I dialled in some more -ve camber and tried again, but it still looked iffy for me to get away with it under maximum loading. So, I've simply removed the spacers; in any event I'd rather have wider tyres doing the "spacing".
gwatson said:BummerWhat camber were you running before you tweaked it?
Are you going to remove the front spacers, I know you were advising keeping the front to rear changes proportional to OEM when I was looking at spacers, hence I ended up with 10mm all round
I'm running around -1 degree on the rear. Removing the spacers isn't really a problem because the extra 20mm of track width that I gained by fitting the spacers with the OEM 255s, is about the same track width as running the 265 PSSs. So, overall I've got a wider rear track and a wider contact patch which is beneficial for cornering. Until the weather improves I'll keep the front OEM Contis with spacers, but when I change to the 235 PSSs, I expect that I'll have to remove the front spacers for the same reason. TBH, the track width with OEM wheels/tyres on the Z4M isn't too bad at all, whereas on my Z3MC I've been able to fit 285 tyres and 10mm spacers when OEM size is 245, some difference!
The width of the actual footprint of different models of tyre in a given size varies quite significantly. The 255 or 265mm represents the maximum width of the tyre. This may be the footprint if the shoulder is square or the side wall if it is rounded.
As such some tyres in 265mm width would tolerate 10mm spacers whilst others wouldn't.
As such some tyres in 265mm width would tolerate 10mm spacers whilst others wouldn't.
exdos said:Sae said:Exdos - any pics?
Not that I've got a rubber fetish or anything
Not as yet. The roads around here are bad at the moment, so I took the wheels only to the tyre fitters, so I've not yet driven the car on the PSSs.
When you have a dry road on a warm day you're going to be impressed....I'd wager there'll be no more talk about how well the OEM Contis perform
BMWZ4MC said:When you have a dry road on a warm day you're going to be impressed....I'd wager there'll be no more talk about how well the OEM Contis perform
I'm expecting "If Araldite made tyres..." with all the comments I've read on here. And if I'm not disappointed, it won't stop me from giving credit, where it's due, to the Contis.
exdos said:BMWZ4MC said:When you have a dry road on a warm day you're going to be impressed....I'd wager there'll be no more talk about how well the OEM Contis perform
I'm expecting "If Araldite made tyres..." with all the comments I've read on here. And if I'm not disappointed, it won't stop me from giving credit, where it's due, to the Contis.
Just don't get too carried away with cold temperatures or slightly greasy roads. I am running PSS all round with 265 rears and they are absolutely terrible when cold and in wet/greasy conditions. You would honestly think you were driving on ice :thumbsdown: It is a completely different story once on track however and you get some heat into them. My last trackday was absolutely soaking, hammered it down all day and once up to temperature the grip was pretty incredible. You are never going to get the required heat into them on the road though so just be prepared when coming off roundabouts or out of junctions