Media making them future classics

[z30Norfolker]

This popped up on my feed this morning, values are rocketing.. is the Z4 a future classic already, able to command such prices.

https://www.pistonheads.com/news/general-pistonheads/-10k-sports-cars--six-of-the-best/45542

Either way, its a very good read

 

[Zulu4]

Cool
I also had the Alfa 3.0 V6 GTV around 2001. It was a lovely car, but nowhere near as quick or fun as the Z4 roadster I replaced it with.

 

[Calps]

I remember reading that article when it came out a few weeks ago.

is the Z4 a future classic already, able to command such prices.

That the car featured is still for sale, and has dropped in price by £1000 since this was published probably tells it's own story....

That Westfield would be a bit of a hoot though

 

[Mr Tidy]

I also read that article when it was first posted and remember thinking that Z4 looked a bit expensive!

E85 & 86s still still look pretty cheap for what you get though.

 

[SonnyA85]

I don't see anywhere where it says it will be a future classic in the article.

Personally I don't think they will. There's nothing special about any of the non M versions. The M versions will be a modern classic and the alpinas but not the normal Z4's.

The fact you can pick them up for £2k-4k shows that they aren't appreciating in price quite the opposite

 

[tiglon]

There's nothing remarkable about them now, just like there wasn't anything remarkable about an Alfa 2000 50 years ago. Once the E85 is old enough that it's nostalgic and there are only a handful around then it will be desirable enough to be a classic. Yes everyone will lust after the Z4M, but that'll be quarter of a million just like a GTAm.

The Z4 is probably at the bottom of it's price curve at the moment, just like the Toyota MR2 mk3 was when I bought one (with the same mileage as the £7k one in that article) for £850.

 

[Zulu4]

I don't see anywhere where it says it will be a future classic in the article.

Personally I don't think they will. There's nothing special about any of the non M versions. The M versions will be a modern classic and the alpinas but not the normal Z4's.

The fact you can pick them up for £2k-4k shows that they aren't appreciating in price quite the opposite

When I sold my Mk1 Golf GTi for peanuts in 1993, I told the buyer it would be a classic one day. He laughed at me.
Now they can fetch £20k.

 

[SonnyA85]

I don't see anywhere where it says it will be a future classic in the article.

Personally I don't think they will. There's nothing special about any of the non M versions. The M versions will be a modern classic and the alpinas but not the normal Z4's.

The fact you can pick them up for £2k-4k shows that they aren't appreciating in price quite the opposite

When I sold my Mk1 Golf GTi for peanuts in 1993, I told the buyer it would be a classic one day. He laughed at me.
Now they can fetch £20k.

Yeah but the golf GTi was the top end golf was it not? Just like the alpina and M is to the Z4.

How much is a normal non GTi MK1 golf?

 

[SonnyA85]

There's nothing remarkable about them now, just like there wasn't anything remarkable about an Alfa 2000 50 years ago. Once the E85 is old enough that it's nostalgic and there are only a handful around then it will be desirable enough to be a classic. Yes everyone will lust after the Z4M, but that'll be quarter of a million just like a GTAm.

The Z4 is probably at the bottom of it's price curve at the moment, just like the Toyota MR2 mk3 was when I bought one (with the same mileage as the £7k one in that article) for £850.

A quarter of a million for a Z4M? Inflation must be much higher than I thought? Or are we talking rubles?

 

[enuff_zed]

Personally I don't think they will.

Your opinion..........fine.

The fact you can pick them up for £2k-4k shows that they aren't appreciating in price quite the opposite

:?
Good luck with that pal!
Pick it up for £2k is just possible for a 4-pot, but I can tell you now, from experience, that it will be double that to make it a good'un.
Still cheaper than a decent garden though, eh?

 

[Mr Tidy]

There's nothing remarkable about them now, just like there wasn't anything remarkable about an Alfa 2000 50 years ago. Once the E85 is old enough that it's nostalgic and there are only a handful around then it will be desirable enough to be a classic. Yes everyone will lust after the Z4M, but that'll be quarter of a million just like a GTAm.

I hope not - I'd be afraid to use mine but don't ever want to part with it.

If M and Alpina values do climb I can see 3.0Si values creeping up as the next best option, especially as both are pretty rare with less than 1,000 Roadsters and just over 2,000 Coupes registered in the UK. And a 3 litre N52 is still pretty special for an N/A production engine.

 

[Roberltd2]

I don't see anywhere where it says it will be a future classic in the article.

Personally I don't think they will. There's nothing special about any of the non M versions. The M versions will be a modern classic and the alpinas but not the normal Z4's.

The fact you can pick them up for £2k-4k shows that they aren't appreciating in price quite the opposite

Back in the late 70s you could pick up a Meriden Bonneville for three or four hundred quid. I doubt you'd find one now under 5K. There was "nothing special" about them at the time either.

 

[Mr Tidy]

That's true of everything from years ago - I bought a MK2 Escort RS2000 for less than £3K in 1983.

Sold it for less than £2.5K in 1984 when I replaced it with a 1982 Capri 2.8 Injection for £4,950!

But I really can't understand why anyone would pay twice as much for any RS Escort as I paid for my Z4MC.

 

[kaiser01]

I can remember when you could get a nice 635CSi for £5-6K or even an M635CSi for under £15k. As the M6s have jumped to £50k+, they have dragged the values of the “standard” car with them. See M5s and M535is, M3s and 2-door 325i too. I see the Z4 3.0si and Z4 M as as similar pairing. As interest increases in the M, the 3.0si will benefit too.

 

[MikeyH]

Morris Minors, Ford Anglia 105e, minis, Morris Oxfords and Bond Bugs, need I say more :rofl:

 

[buzyg]

Alas unless you buy and sell, all higher values do is put up the cost of ownership. So be careful what you wish for. :wink:

 

[flimper]

I would compare the Z4M with the E46 M3, and the Z4 3.0 si with the E46 330ci. A nice 330 will command a nice price, but never have classic status.

 

[SonnyA85]

Personally I don't think they will.

Your opinion..........fine.

The fact you can pick them up for £2k-4k shows that they aren't appreciating in price quite the opposite

:?
Good luck with that pal!
Pick it up for £2k is just possible for a 4-pot, but I can tell you now, from experience, that it will be double that to make it a good'un.
Still cheaper than a decent garden though, eh?

Don't know where you are getting your prices from but my garden is going to be costing circa £30k. And that's with me doing 90% of the work myself.

I am using top end stuff though. If I wanted to do it on the cheap could probably get the full thing done for £5k.

 

[SonnyA85]

I don't see anywhere where it says it will be a future classic in the article.

Personally I don't think they will. There's nothing special about any of the non M versions. The M versions will be a modern classic and the alpinas but not the normal Z4's.

The fact you can pick them up for £2k-4k shows that they aren't appreciating in price quite the opposite

Back in the late 70s you could pick up a Meriden Bonneville for three or four hundred quid. I doubt you'd find one now under 5K. There was "nothing special" about them at the time either.

Special and rarity are two completely seperate things.

Also in the next 10 years petrol and diesel cars won't be sitting on forecourts.

Or are we all not looking at the elephant in the room here apart from me?

So when everyone is driving electric cars. Demand for petrol goes down significantly. It will get cheaper to begin with and then the opposite it will start to get more expensive as more companies exit the market as it's so small.

Then petrol becomes £5 a litre. Maybe even £10 a litre.

You really think these cars are going to be worth £250k?

People will be giving them away because they can't afford to use them.

My mate just sold his Ferrari because he can see petrol being £3 a litre within the next 5 years. Once 2030 hits sky's the limit for petrol prices.

 

[Scubaregs]

I would think the cost of fuel would be the least of a Ferrari owners worries running costs wise.