Mcoupe

Mr Tidy said:
Jembo said:
An F type was on my list recently, what swayed me elsewhere was another totally non hardcore Coupe with leather & most of the very latest gizmos, 19 delivery miles on the clock at £15k under list.

Don't keep us in suspense - what is it?

This little baby with multibeam’s LED’s, Apple car play & a whole host of other goodies
 

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basil the dog said:
I've been looking at other cars( an F type and masserati grand turismo) but an Mcoupe for sale by a forum member has got me thinking,
Will an M be more fun than the above?
Will i loose less on the resale in a few years?
Any info much appreciated
Basil the dog


Have you thought about a 5.0 GT Mustang, 400+ bhp, 2018 models around £32k with low miles.

https://www.mocgb.net/forums/forum/wanted-and-for-sale/mustangs-for-sale-and-wanted/1244834-2018-mustang-5-0-for-sale
 
The Maserati and F-Type are really more GT cars than "pure" sports car like the Z4M is. The newer F-Types with their AWD system has really dulled the savagery the SVR had when in RWD form. Personally, I like the V6 F-Types a great deal as they sound awesome and I think there was a manual option? (I'm not sure). You need to be an utter sadist to even think about going for a Maserati GT etc, as they were riddled with so many problems from new and they are cheap as they just go wrong so much. The only good thing about them was made by Ferrari and that was the engine, but it was mated up to either a shockingly bad single plate clutch e-gear and a lazy auto by ZF.

With resale values, both the Z4MR and Z4MC have the right potential to go up in value thanks to them having a more raw nature than an E46 M3 and such limited production numbers. Some E36 M3's and Z3M's have shown to gain some value and some E46 M3's are getting good money, as so many of them have been ruined. With it being pretty easy and cost effective to convert an SMG car over to manual, I don't see the demand for the Z4M's to go crazy for another 5-6 years. Once the first Z4M's hit the 15 year mark, it will become much cheaper to own them as they will qualify for most classic car insurance policies, which will take the sting out of the high insurance costs. The big thing that I have become aware of is how milage sensitive the Z4M's could end up being. Once they go past that 100,000 (which mine did last year) there are so many things that you want to have replaced/sorted by that point (which landed me with a £3400 bill for a crate of new parts).

Never buy a car to make money as an investment, as it's a fool's errand. Just drive and enjoy the car as much as you want (or can manage). M cars get overcharged for almost everything associated with them, but they do have something about them that keeps them very desirable.
 
I wouldn’t disagree with any of the above apart from the “ pure” sports car bit

If you do want that kind of experience then there are many cars that fall into that category , the Z4 not so much
 
Felix79 said:
With resale values, both the Z4MR and Z4MC have the right potential to go up in value thanks to them having a more raw nature than an E46 M3 and such limited production numbers. Some E36 M3's and Z3M's have shown to gain some value and some E46 M3's are getting good money, as so many of them have been ruined. With it being pretty easy and cost effective to convert an SMG car over to manual, I don't see the demand for the Z4M's to go crazy for another 5-6 years. Once the first Z4M's hit the 15 year mark, it will become much cheaper to own them as they will qualify for most classic car insurance policies, which will take the sting out of the high insurance costs. The big thing that I have become aware of is how milage sensitive the Z4M's could end up being. Once they go past that 100,000 (which mine did last year) there are so many things that you want to have replaced/sorted by that point (which landed me with a £3400 bill for a crate of new parts).

Never buy a car to make money as an investment, as it's a fool's errand. Just drive and enjoy the car as much as you want (or can manage). M cars get overcharged for almost everything associated with them, but they do have something about them that keeps them very desirable.
Thanks for the info, it is the F type 3ltr v6s coupe i'm looking at and going to test drive a couple this week. I'm not really looking to invest or make any money on the resale but i'll only be putting about 2-3 k miles a year and don't want to loose a fortune when i sell after a couple of years. so its a Z4MC and worry about the miles going on and bills or the Jag, 12 months warranty , cheaper tax and lower costs but the main thing is to have fun driving it .
 
exdos said:
Here's a chap discussing the costs of running an AM DB9 if you want some perspective on running expensive cars: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maNB5zk2dCA

So my takeaway there is Z4M’s are unlikely to depreciate much especially with that 20 year threshold approaching

Otherwise if u can afford it... go exotic while we still can...
 
Z4M-2006 said:
I wouldn’t disagree with any of the above apart from the “ pure” sports car bit

If you do want that kind of experience then there are many cars that fall into that category , the Z4 not so much

I was trying to think of the right word to use, maybe "focused" would have fitted better? . I think the bare Z4M's and the NA and NB MX-5's really are all about the driving and offer nothing else to make them anything else. I will admit the Z4MR I own is really easy to drive long distances.

basil the dog said:
Felix79 said:
With resale values, both the Z4MR and Z4MC have the right potential to go up in value thanks to them having a more raw nature than an E46 M3 and such limited production numbers. Some E36 M3's and Z3M's have shown to gain some value and some E46 M3's are getting good money, as so many of them have been ruined. With it being pretty easy and cost effective to convert an SMG car over to manual, I don't see the demand for the Z4M's to go crazy for another 5-6 years. Once the first Z4M's hit the 15 year mark, it will become much cheaper to own them as they will qualify for most classic car insurance policies, which will take the sting out of the high insurance costs. The big thing that I have become aware of is how milage sensitive the Z4M's could end up being. Once they go past that 100,000 (which mine did last year) there are so many things that you want to have replaced/sorted by that point (which landed me with a £3400 bill for a crate of new parts).

Never buy a car to make money as an investment, as it's a fool's errand. Just drive and enjoy the car as much as you want (or can manage). M cars get overcharged for almost everything associated with them, but they do have something about them that keeps them very desirable.
Thanks for the info, it is the F type 3ltr v6s coupe i'm looking at and going to test drive a couple this week. I'm not really looking to invest or make any money on the resale but i'll only be putting about 2-3 k miles a year and don't want to loose a fortune when i sell after a couple of years. so its a Z4MC and worry about the miles going on and bills or the Jag, 12 months warranty , cheaper tax and lower costs but the main thing is to have fun driving it .

The Z4MC's seem very mileage sensitive at the moment if you get a low mileage example. The Z4MC's are finally being seen as the weapons they really are. I would still have one in a heartbeat if I could.

I think the V6 Jag is the right call. It offers more than enough performance, they sound great and they feel a bit more pointy than the V8's. When my Poppa and I test drove an F-Type I was impressed at the Jaguar design language, but next to BMW I utterly adore the Jaguar brand so I have a strong desire to see the good in every Jag (bar the X-Type, as even I have limits! :rofl: ).
 
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