jimmybell said:
Ye you would certainly be right. Its a 997 gen 1 but tbh is an incredible car on the euro trip we had a 991 997.2, 997, 981 and E85 M. The 997 was certainly no slouch and got a huge amount of attention. Probably because its guards red tho really stands out.
Just very very hard to find a GTS in a great spec been looking for 2 years for my dad and still haven't found 'the one' but being very anal on spec. But they are very expensive and low specs are going for similar prices to the higher spec cars. Also the GTS is problematic because it has the single nut release wheels so they are a pain, they are also lovely wheels but they all came in black and I hate black wheels.
The 997 we have is so highly specced and can't find a gts that has the same kit. For example can't seem to find extended leather in any of them yet a large amount of 997s have it, cruise etc. Weird. They also didn't sell a lot so many might have been dealer cars but are appreciating fairly sharpish, 65-70k is the ballpark for a good very low milage GTS. Could get a good 997.2 for 40-55k, depends what you want really.
The 997 gen 2 is the one to have but the 997 gen 1s are cheap are very very capable theres not much between them apart from the nice internal upgrades like nav and the nice LED lights which look much nicer etc but you can have the LED lights installed on the gen 1. Spend a bit of money having possible the problems solved like an upgraded RMS bearing etc and it will be a very reliable, fairly cheap for what it is and it carries a lot of kudos value. Never got the attention in the M like the 911 does.
After owning the M for 3 years and then driving the 911 for 1500 odd miles, on paper very similar, on normal roads normal driving very similar. But get the 911 somewhere that it was designed to be like the twisty passes, quick roads, autobahn and the difference is obvious. The 911 is much more comfortable its like a GT/sportscar all in one. Took two of us all our luggage 3000 miles with ease, the car was hammered and did 25mpg overall. But its the drive, the M is wooly in comparison, the porsche is very direct and feels like a much more complete package, the shift, pedal position, very easy to drive to the drivers limit unlike the M which can be tiring to drive at the my driver limit. Only thing is that the 911 doesn't have which took a bit of getting used to was that it doesn't have as much low end instead of 2000rpm it more like 3000 so you'll end up being in lower gears.
Also ensure you get the sports exhaust the NO1 feature, sounds incredible very loud and burbles pops and screams much louder than the M unfortunately in the tunnels the M was completely out voiced. Still can't beat that M noise on full chat tho.
Nothing against the M at all its an incredible car, the 911 was double the price of the M new. But you can get lovely 911s for similar prices to Ms atm and imo there is no comparison apart from the rarity factor. But the 911 is a better drivers car and on the top end feels like it has much more horsepower than it does.
Susten Pass, Switzerland by Tom Scott, on Flickr
Porsche 911, Sustens Pass, Switzerland by Tom Scott, on Flickr
Looks v nice tho - considering i'm never really blown away by Porsche colours (I think BMW win here hands down). I'd be buying a GT3 if they werent all appreciating like mad, big fan of the 991 - thanks to pvr's tidy example.
