Manual owners-

bluestreak56 said:
Even though my zed is an auto, if I know im stopped for more than 30 seconds I shift to Neutral,

The same in any manual car (ie my compact).

That said, I live in London where no set of lights lasts less than 30 seconds so...
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... and the next set is in 50 yards :P
 
Neutral and foot brake (brake assist). Handbrake only when I want to see the picture on the in dash TV ;-)


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Bing said:
I am not sure it matters - the clutch is disengaged when the pedal is down, not driving / wearing anything, so what damage could it do ? I have always just had the car in 1st with the clutch depressed when I have had a manual, unless it's a long wait. Where did you hear this ?
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Clutch release bearing, crank thrust bearings are loaded when the clucth is depressed as are the clutch fingers - The bearing in the crankshaft/first motion shaft is also moving in this state.
 
Boogle said:
It's also illegal in the UK to coast for more than a few metres :P
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Thats a new one on me - which law?


EDIT - bit of a quick Internet search and there is no offence of coasting per se. However it could (not my words but taken from various references) be considerd that the driver is not in full control of the car and in the event of an incident could be sighted as a potential contributory factor. Of course this allows for brief periods of coasting when changing gear and coming to a stop - traffic lights, junctions etc.
 
AlanJ said:
Boogle said:
It's also illegal in the UK to coast for more than a few metres :P
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Thats a new one on me - which law?
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Agree with Alan here, the highway code isnt a book of law....

On the brake lights at junctions, if BMW made handbrakes that inspired confidence, I would use it more. Sadly, in both BMWs I have owned, they have been pants. My E46 3 series was pathetic, although the dealer supposedly fixed it twice, and an Indy looked at it.

My zeds hadnbrake is also poo. And it's been looked at by John Clarks the stealer in Dundee.

My year 2000 VW Polo has a better handbrake.... sad, but true
 
Wow... you guys have put a lot more thought into this than I have.

I usually engine brake down to third gear and once it comes time to downshift into second (20-ish mph) I pop it into neutral and use the brakes to stop. Once stopped I take my foot off the brake - if I start rolling I put my foot back on and wait for the light to change before shifting back into gear. If I don't start rolling I just sit there waiting for the light in neutral with no brakes on.

I will usually put my foot on the brake momentarily when someone pulls in behind me to let them know I'm stopped. Once they stop though I'll get back off the brakes again.
 
1st gear ready for plenty of revs, clutch in no wear only wear when let out.oh and tyres :thumbsup:
 
Adamski said:
And it's been looked at by John Clarks the stealer in Dundee.
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Given your recent experience with them and brakes, that's probably all they did... Looked at it :o

As for coasting - pretty sure that if you did it in a driving test you'd get a big black mark, enough to tip the balance to fail :?

Nt in control of the vehicle = bit lazy and careless IMO
 
Bing said:
As for coasting - pretty sure that if you did it in a driving test you'd get a big black mark, enough to tip the balance to fail :?

Nt in control of the vehicle = bit lazy and careless IMO
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I assume you still drive with your hands at 10 and 2 o'clock and feed the wheel at all times (including parking of course) to ensure careful and proper control of your vehicle :) Failure to do so could fail a driving test :P

Not sure coasting quite falls into careless/lazy category. Texting whilst driving, failure to use indicators whilst changing lanes on a busy motorway - yes. Coasting? Probables not




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Adamski said:
Bing said:
As for coasting - pretty sure that if you did it in a driving test you'd get a big black mark, enough to tip the balance to fail :?

Nt in control of the vehicle = bit lazy and careless IMO
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I assume you still drive with your hands at 10 and 2 o'clock and feed the wheel at all times (including parking of course) to ensure careful and proper control of your vehicle :) Failure to do so could fail a driving test :P

Not sure coasting quite falls into careless/lazy category. Texting whilst driving, failure to use indicators whilst changing lanes on a busy motorway - yes. Coasting? Probables not
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I do. Don't you :?

Take your point - think my brain skipped and I linked two thoughts inappropriately there. Not entirely sure what I was on about :oops:

Gimme a break... I'll be 39 next week and I'm feeling it :cry:
 
Regarding coasting, I used to work with a guy who took his brand new car on holiday to the Alps.
Being a bit of a tight-wad he had the brilliant idea of turning off the engine in order to coast down a mountain road.
Apparently it went well until the first bend and he suddenly realised that he had no power assisted brakes or steering... :roll:
 
Georgio said:
Regarding coasting, I used to work with a guy who took his brand new car on holiday to the Alps.
Being a bit of a tight-wad he had the brilliant idea of turning off the engine in order to coast down a mountain road.
Apparently it went well until the first bend and he suddenly realised that he had no power assisted brakes or steering... :roll:
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Turning engine off IS reckless! No servo brakes? Nasty


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Georgio said:
Regarding coasting, I used to work with a guy who took his brand new car on holiday to the Alps.
Being a bit of a tight-wad he had the brilliant idea of turning off the engine in order to coast down a mountain road.
Apparently it went well until the first bend and he suddenly realised that he had no power assisted brakes or steering... :roll:
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Your friend's name isn't Mr Bean, by any chance?
 
Iirc someone once told me that keeping the clutch disengaged over time puts pressure on the crank shaft and can damage it (cause it to bend maybe??), I think we're talking over lifetime of car. Don't know how true that is, but ever since I have put car in neutral at lights etc. Besides which it's probably safer and prevents you having one leg like Jeff Capes and the other like Mr Muscles (original obviously)

Edit. Just seen previous posts, that was it, wear on the bearin! 8)
 
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