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Turned out to be warped disks so had the front disks and pads done. Had a health check done and there are a few other little issues so waiting for parts to be delivered and having an oil service just for piece of mind. Picking it up on Tuesday. 
I ended up taking it to The Bavarians and they sit in the Project Three Group. Called, had it in 2 days later and called the next day to go through the issues and cost. Really convenient just near Old trafford near where I work. Guys were great and went through a complete check with me which inspired confidence.
Tried for get it into Darren Wood but they couldn’t get it in for 6 weeks and the guy was really unhelpful and not interested on the phone so decided not to go there.
I ended up taking it to The Bavarians and they sit in the Project Three Group. Called, had it in 2 days later and called the next day to go through the issues and cost. Really convenient just near Old trafford near where I work. Guys were great and went through a complete check with me which inspired confidence.
Tried for get it into Darren Wood but they couldn’t get it in for 6 weeks and the guy was really unhelpful and not interested on the phone so decided not to go there.
I will be.
Its just turned over 65k, plan to do them at around 80k. That might be sooner than later as I plan to drive the car as much as possible. At the same time will probably do a mini refresh of suspension bushes and mounts etc
The cars got really good history and has been over serviced with two fastidious owners I know pretty well so its not a big worry really. I will give it interim oil changes every 12 months for piece of mind
Its just turned over 65k, plan to do them at around 80k. That might be sooner than later as I plan to drive the car as much as possible. At the same time will probably do a mini refresh of suspension bushes and mounts etc
The cars got really good history and has been over serviced with two fastidious owners I know pretty well so its not a big worry really. I will give it interim oil changes every 12 months for piece of mind
Just to update.
Got the car back last night. Had the below done:
Charged me 4 1/2 hours labour which I thought was rather good! Would recommend Project Three they were very thorough and conscientious. Although a BMW specialist they seemed to be quite taken with the car which was nice.
Alarm sensor under the bonnet... they couldn't figure this out assuming it needs a new sensor but instead of wasting the labour diagnosing it im going to leave it for now. Will buy a new one and fit it myself seems straight forward!
Cars now good to go! Nice to know the car is good mechanically now the modding begins!
The car is a credit to the previous owners in that respect all the above are just wearable items. Really chuffed with it and how much car you get with these. Being 13 years old it certainly doesnt feel like a dinosaur. The 996 is 2 years older and certainly drives and feels like it came from a different era.
I bought some extended leather items from Yorkie Z the other day so looking forward to fitting. I have my OEM CSLs to put on with new centre caps and OEM dust covers! Thoughts to the future would like to add a Group M and some Aero Skirts but they seem to be difficult to find these days... Also want to do a full paint restoration and ceramic coat. The roof has 4 little tears two on each side in the usual places where the roof folds, seems to be fine from a water ingress perspective but a new roof will probably on the cards down the road. Unless anyone has any thoughts? Can you seal or is it an pull off and seal under job? Its going to be garaged anyway but looks unsightly so would like to have it sorted.
Mechanically as above, I would like to do a suspension refresh with bushes, mounts and bearings. Will do at 80k which will probably be in about 2 years time.
I also have the Gaptech installed but the wires are crimped not soldiered so its intermittent, im not great with these things. If anyone in the North West has any experience and could help then im sure a few crates of beer and some Z banter wouldn't go amiss
Once ive got CSLs and Leather installed will get a few pics up.
Got the car back last night. Had the below done:
- Health Check (basically a pre purchase inspection, new car to me wanted to know of any possible issues none found )
- Front disks and pads - Sorted the wobble which is great! - The disks were skimmed but was told with them being warped the material was thinner where warped and they had not done a good job skimming them as they were at the markers so basically nakard anyway. Why they bothered... who knows just made it worse.
- Oil change (Not done long ago but when at temp the level was a little above max so had it done)
- Washer fluid pump (Was told it was a pipe missing but it was just the overflow pipe. The problem was a duff pump reading no volts so no squirt!
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Charged me 4 1/2 hours labour which I thought was rather good! Would recommend Project Three they were very thorough and conscientious. Although a BMW specialist they seemed to be quite taken with the car which was nice.
Alarm sensor under the bonnet... they couldn't figure this out assuming it needs a new sensor but instead of wasting the labour diagnosing it im going to leave it for now. Will buy a new one and fit it myself seems straight forward!
Cars now good to go! Nice to know the car is good mechanically now the modding begins!
The car is a credit to the previous owners in that respect all the above are just wearable items. Really chuffed with it and how much car you get with these. Being 13 years old it certainly doesnt feel like a dinosaur. The 996 is 2 years older and certainly drives and feels like it came from a different era.
I bought some extended leather items from Yorkie Z the other day so looking forward to fitting. I have my OEM CSLs to put on with new centre caps and OEM dust covers! Thoughts to the future would like to add a Group M and some Aero Skirts but they seem to be difficult to find these days... Also want to do a full paint restoration and ceramic coat. The roof has 4 little tears two on each side in the usual places where the roof folds, seems to be fine from a water ingress perspective but a new roof will probably on the cards down the road. Unless anyone has any thoughts? Can you seal or is it an pull off and seal under job? Its going to be garaged anyway but looks unsightly so would like to have it sorted.
Mechanically as above, I would like to do a suspension refresh with bushes, mounts and bearings. Will do at 80k which will probably be in about 2 years time.
I also have the Gaptech installed but the wires are crimped not soldiered so its intermittent, im not great with these things. If anyone in the North West has any experience and could help then im sure a few crates of beer and some Z banter wouldn't go amiss
Once ive got CSLs and Leather installed will get a few pics up.
Beemingallover
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Are shell bearings an issue with the S54? Mine has done 79k runs very well. I also have an M3 E92, S85 engine, and they do not seem to have a good record on longevity for their shells.mr wilks said:Question is Tomnow you're in the seat so to speak
being a avid S54 enthusiast will you be having the bearing shells done ?
Beemingallover said:Are shell bearings an issue with the S54? Mine has done 79k runs very well. I also have an M3 E92, S85 engine, and they do not seem to have a good record on longevity for their shells.mr wilks said:Question is Tom
They can be yes, it’s a well covered topic on here Beeming, have a search through, plenty of chat and some useful advice. At 79k personally I’d be taking an oil sample for analysis just for peace of mind, it’s an fairly expensive job if they need changing and a hideous expense if they spin a bearing.
Johns on the money.
The only problem with an oil analysis is it only gives you a small window of the cars condition. The oil is only meant to be in for 12000 or 2 years so its best to do it at the end of that stage but will only give you an idea of the last 2 years. It wont show the wear directly over the cars life. It will give a good idea there are certain metals, off the top of my head I think high copper shows they bearing material has warn through.
Depends who you ask / how the car has been used / tracked and how many owners etc There isn't a definitive answer.
The main thing you can do to ensure that the worst case isnt met is interim oil changes. I plan to have mine done at schedule and every year between for £100 in parts and an hour of your time swapping the oil out is a good idea i think.
Some bearings have gone at 30k some are over 150k and still running although I would be very worried at that point. I would say somewhere in-between isnt unreasonable. Between 80-100k.
With the age of these cars a few other big jobs can be done at the same time, gearbox/engine mounts as these are rubber they perish and one of the mounts is behind the heat shield which tends to go first. There is also the engine bolts which can shear or work their way out, at worst when you rev the engine it will lurch in the bay. There have been numerous members with this issue and for piece of mind its worth having those done at the same time.
Mine is a July or August build 2006 car so its quite an early one and i had a good look when it was in for an inspection recently and the mounts look ok. So not sure if they have been done before but its a common problem. The mount splits in half and its obvious.
Either way having the shells replaced is about £1000, while they are in there and have the tray off the car might as well get the other bits done too. Roughly £1500 depending on where you go and what it needs.
For me I have a list to make the car my own to ensure my anxiety is at bay
although I know both the previous owners they both used the car as intended. With that in mind I plan on doing as much as I can to keep it running as it should for as long as possible.
I plan on doing a full suspension refresh and all of the above at 80k which is in 15k. Simply because I have decided it will be a long termer. At 13 years old im sure the ride and handeling of the car would benefit.
My old M coupe had lowering springs but with the same wheels felt more direct, im not sure if its a roadster thing but my MR feels a bit more woolly in comparison. It could just be that its 6 years since I sold the coupe and have had lots of other cars in-between and im not used to it but it seems to need a decent turn of the wheel to make small adjustments. I feel like an upgraded suspension would benefit hugely.
Again personal preference if the car isnt something you will keep then you may be different.
The main thing is just keep running the car. They are designed to move and sitting does them no good.
The only problem with an oil analysis is it only gives you a small window of the cars condition. The oil is only meant to be in for 12000 or 2 years so its best to do it at the end of that stage but will only give you an idea of the last 2 years. It wont show the wear directly over the cars life. It will give a good idea there are certain metals, off the top of my head I think high copper shows they bearing material has warn through.
Depends who you ask / how the car has been used / tracked and how many owners etc There isn't a definitive answer.
The main thing you can do to ensure that the worst case isnt met is interim oil changes. I plan to have mine done at schedule and every year between for £100 in parts and an hour of your time swapping the oil out is a good idea i think.
Some bearings have gone at 30k some are over 150k and still running although I would be very worried at that point. I would say somewhere in-between isnt unreasonable. Between 80-100k.
With the age of these cars a few other big jobs can be done at the same time, gearbox/engine mounts as these are rubber they perish and one of the mounts is behind the heat shield which tends to go first. There is also the engine bolts which can shear or work their way out, at worst when you rev the engine it will lurch in the bay. There have been numerous members with this issue and for piece of mind its worth having those done at the same time.
Mine is a July or August build 2006 car so its quite an early one and i had a good look when it was in for an inspection recently and the mounts look ok. So not sure if they have been done before but its a common problem. The mount splits in half and its obvious.
Either way having the shells replaced is about £1000, while they are in there and have the tray off the car might as well get the other bits done too. Roughly £1500 depending on where you go and what it needs.
For me I have a list to make the car my own to ensure my anxiety is at bay
although I know both the previous owners they both used the car as intended. With that in mind I plan on doing as much as I can to keep it running as it should for as long as possible.I plan on doing a full suspension refresh and all of the above at 80k which is in 15k. Simply because I have decided it will be a long termer. At 13 years old im sure the ride and handeling of the car would benefit.
My old M coupe had lowering springs but with the same wheels felt more direct, im not sure if its a roadster thing but my MR feels a bit more woolly in comparison. It could just be that its 6 years since I sold the coupe and have had lots of other cars in-between and im not used to it but it seems to need a decent turn of the wheel to make small adjustments. I feel like an upgraded suspension would benefit hugely.
Again personal preference if the car isnt something you will keep then you may be different.
The main thing is just keep running the car. They are designed to move and sitting does them no good.
Beemingallover
Member
I used Darren Wood for the last oil service on the E92 M3 and also for new discs on the Z4MR and they were very good value and did a very good job. I have also used Halliwell Jones (Wilmslow), they also were very good though a bit more expensive. On average I get the oil changed on both cars before 12k, maybe 9-10k.
I had the Z4MR on the road roller at Top Gear Bredbury, next door to Darren Wood. It registered 307hp at the wheels, which they said was reasonable.
I had the Z4MR on the road roller at Top Gear Bredbury, next door to Darren Wood. It registered 307hp at the wheels, which they said was reasonable.