Main dealers washing cars.

Hark

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I was walking around BMW today and looking at a very nice Alpina 3 series. I couldn't help notice that for a brand new car it had lots of swirls on the paint. Seemed a little odd but there we go.

Anyway on the way out I see the guy cleaning the used approved cars outside.

Hose, with a broom attachment which was so dirty it must have been used to brush someone's patio. The bristles were literally black. Followed this by a wipe down with a water blade and a rag, both of which he left on the gravel while he used the hose. lol
Audi was no better, 30 minutes later, using a dirty rag to wipe theirs down.

And you pay a premium for these cars, instead of buying from a private owner who washes it with care every week. :roll:
 
I tell dealer not to wash my car. I even wash it before it goes for service, so I can spot any scratches they may make.
 
I specifically ask the main dealer not to wash my car.

I was estatic when I came back and it was still dirty. :)

Andy
 
Don't get me started. Every time I go to a new dealer I have to remember to put a note on my file and paper note in the car to ensure they don't wash it.

Unfortunately a week after I got the car corrected it was in the dealership closest to the office (which I'd not been to before), and they handed me my keys and said "It's just out front sir, freshly washed & vacc'd". :headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

My own fault for not assuming they were all fuckwits, but a letters to the management so far have had no response, but the service staff now put 'Do Not Wash' on the work order before I leave.

pissed off mmm-five said:
Dear Sirs,

Firstly, I would like to thank the service staff for fitting my car in at short notice after I brought the car to the wrong dealership, due to my local dealerships being in the North-West.

Secondly, and more importantly, I would like to assure you that I’m not attempting to claim recompense for any damage caused to my vehicle. However I am most definitely seeking assurances that processes are put in place so that more care is taken in future to ensure this situation is not repeated on my or others’ cars.

On Tuesday 1st March, I brought my 2006 Z4MC (VX56ONN) to your service department for a diagnostic check on a failing rear PDC sensor. After the diagnosis had been completed and a date & time put in the calendar for replacement of the sensor, I was told my car was waiting for me outside, and was told it had been washed.

I’m sure your service advisor noticed that I was a little shocked that my car had been put through the complimentary wash regime, despite my vehement curtailing of the wash the previous week (when it was in getting a headlight washer cover fitted) and explaining to a female member of your service staff that I do not want my car put through the wash process as I spend a considerable amount of time and money keeping it as scratch free as possible, including personally spending up to 4 hours at a time cleaning it, or spending upto £500 to get it professionally detailed every 6 months – and the car had only had its latest full detail & paint correction 2 weeks previously.

I did point out to your service advisor that I was not happy with it being washed, and that I hadn’t assumed it would have been washed after only a 30 minute diagnostic visit. To be fair under the overcast skies on the forecourt their seemed to be little, if any, paintwork damage.

Unfortunately, under the harsh high-intensity lights of the office car park it became apparent that the standard BMW wash methodology they use in the North-West is the same all over the country, and includes using what I can only assume was wire wool, sandpaper, or simply a filthy wash mitt along with a disinterested, minimum-wage valeter who simply doesn’t care about the cars that he/she is rubbing dirt into. If the valeter is a member of staff then I believe some re-training from a professional detailer is in order – if the valeting is outsourced, then I recommend you end the contract before you have claims for paint corrections and resprays.

To my untrained, critical eye, it seems that there has been no attempt to do anything other than dampen the surface grime before rubbing it all back in to the (until yesterday) pristine paintwork, and I’m now back in the position I was in a month ago of having clean-looking bodywork with lots of fine scratches, rather than dirty-looking bodywork with a few tiny scratches.

I do hope this letter is received in the manner it is intended, which is as a reminder that the vehicles that owners are expected to pay you over £100/hour to work on are not all company hacks, that some owners take pride in the appearance of their vehicles, and that owners should be able to expect the same level of quality from every part of their experience – from drop-off to pick-up. Unfortunately in the case of valeting, I’ve yet to be swayed from my view that more damage is caused during these complimentary washes than through motorised supermarket car washes. I suggest that if it’s not possible do a job without causing damage, then please do not do it at all, or at least ask the owner up front whether they’re happy to play Russian roulette with their vehicle’s paintwork.
 
Many people pay £10 for a "hand car wash" at my local Homebase's car park. The sponges and clothes they use are not that clean, and from one car to the other. I can imagine the swirl marks the car can get after just one wash. :thumbsdown:

A very simple car wash & dry by myself (wheels and body, without interior) takes 2.5 hours. Two buckets, wool wash mitt, wheel brushes, MF drying towel, pressure washer, and zymol Natural Car Wash are just basic tools and consumables. Dealer car wash cannot match. :thumbsup:
 
I also tell the dealer not to wash the car and also leave an A4 piece of paper on the passenger set printed on the PC telling them not to wash the car.
 
If you go on Detailing world you can download and print off a kind reminder to the dealer not to wash the car.
I have 2 and are both laminated,i leave them on the dash and this seems to work.
 
Would & have never let them near!

Although on my E60 I did tell them not to touch the paint but feel free to do the alloys as they were filthy ;-)

.....not sure what I expected but only the front surface came back clean. They looked a little shocked when I suggested the flat inside of the wheel should be shiny too!
 
D6GMB said:
If you go on Detailing world you can download and print off a kind reminder to the dealer not to wash the car.
I have 2 and are both laminated,i leave them on the dash and this seems to work.

:thumbsup: We all have OCD :D.
 
my car as only been in dealers once, i made them walk round it with me and told them not to wash it, i made sure they wrote it down in my notes
 
ksher said:
D6GMB said:
If you go on Detailing world you can download and print off a kind reminder to the dealer not to wash the car.
I have 2 and are both laminated,i leave them on the dash and this seems to work.

:thumbsup: We all have OCD :D.

OCD :!: :!: :!: :P :oops: .You have no idea how ocd i can be about my Z4M.I have worked bloody hard to afford this and am damned if some tit
is going to scratch the hell out of it.
Just bought a tub of Swissvax best of show,£160 but dont tell the wife :roll: :roll: :wink: :wink: .
 
I had a note on my file to NOT wash the car. They obliged quite well.

I just found out they use a no touch car wash so I took the note off my file.....I worry more about the water spots they leave but a little Megs Ultimate Detailer and all is well. :thumbsup:
 
Remember I got them to change the roof on my previous Z when they washed it against my instructions ...
 
Our Freelander went in for a service Tuesday. I washed the car the night before put standard plates back on and first thing i said was No wash please. Luckily they are good and i also asked not to leave it under the trees after the service which they did. The Service guys said the bloke working on it spent ages as it was nice to work on being so nice and clean.

Just goes to show a clean car does get better care.

Cheers

PaulN

Still need to polish out the swirls BMW added to my Z4 on its last service..... luckily on section on one door only.....
 
I took mine back to the main dealers not long after I bought it to recover the Bluetooth Code from the diagnostics. The car was clean but they still washed it and to add insult to injury they covered my tryres and wheels in tyre paint. Why do they feel the need to use that stuff, first thing I did when I got home was was the wheels again to get it off!
 
I took mine to local BMW dealer a few weeks ago for £700 of work & said no to having it washed.

Came back & they'd washed it, leaving a 60cm scratch down the passenger door! The first thing they said was 'was it there before you brought it in?'

Suffice to say, I let my feelings known.
 
I always say no to dealers washing my car now, my previous Z was washed by a BMW specialist and two days later when the sun came out I noticed a minor scratch all the way down the length of the bonnet :thumbsdown:

So I wont let anyone ruin my new one :x
 
With all this OCD going on, I'm surprised anyone drives their Z's.If mine was buffed to within an inch of its life, I'd never want to drive the thing in case I got marks on it.Mine was clayed,polished and waxed last month,that'll be it until another polish and wax in the autumn, then a full clay,polish & wax next spring.Don't get me wrong, I like mine to look good,( it's black ferchrissakes) but , I expect some harm to come to it when it is out on the roads being driven, stone damage, tar, twats being careless when walking past it etc. I admire your fortitude,and hope to buy one of your old cars when I upgrade next time. :D
 
bigshurv said:
With all this OCD going on, I'm surprised anyone drives their Z's.If mine was buffed to within an inch of its life, I'd never want to drive the thing in case I got marks on it.Mine was clayed,polished and waxed last month,that'll be it until another polish and wax in the autumn, then a full clay,polish & wax next spring.Don't get me wrong, I like mine to look good,( it's black ferchrissakes) but , I expect some harm to come to it when it is out on the roads being driven, stone damage, tar, twats being careless when walking past it etc. I admire your fortitude,and hope to buy one of your old cars when I upgrade next time. :D

The thing is, there is a bit of a difference between picking up damage in daily use and the dealers damaging it with sloppy washing technique and little regard for what may well be someone's pride and joy. So far I've been lucky with getting my car washed at the dealers, but going to stop getting it done from now on. I take great care washing it, so I don't see why I should pay for the privilege of letting someone rub a dirty, grit-laden sponge across the bodywork!
 
It'a heartbreaking when you get the first scratch and If a dealer does it then the gloves are off.. :headbang: but we all know it's going to happen sometime...

I picked up a Z3 in Sapphire Black and it looks like its been parked downrange at a trapshooting club,rock chips galore and scratches all over it as well but after a polish and a wax job it looks so pretty. I'd forgotten how shiny that sapphire black is ....if/when I get a respray no one else will ever touch it again... unless its a pro detailer (and I'm not :rofl: )
 
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