Madeleine McCann
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Nondizzyblonde said:teamemmenracing said:I spent a lot of time in the middle east ......
White kids get stolen and sold all the time .....
Spend some time online and see just how many "groups" are involved in trying to get them back.
The McCanns screwed up by leaving their kids unattended .... But its hardly exceptional, it happens all the time in places like that.
I believe 100% that she was taken ......
I doubt very much that she is still alive ......
With all the publicity the case got, she would have become a liability very quickly .....
Shouldn't though - if people took being parents seriously. Since we have had our boy, we have always had cottage/villa holidays to make sure we can eat in the house/garden so that he can't wander/be kidnapped. It irks that they have always said it wasn't their fault. Well, yes, they were partly to blame if indeed she got abducted, as they left their 4 yr old basically in charge of the toddlers. Let's be honest, if they had not been white middle class, but a single mum & her current bf from a rough estate, they would have been crucified for this by the press.
All this has been said many many times over the last 6 years... They made a mistake an error of judgement., Many of us have made mistakes in our lives and perhaps we have been lucky enough to get away with it...They were not lucky.. I wonder though how many other children have not been lost because the publicity raised by this case has made people a lot more aware and a lot more careful.
Yes, we have, but what irks me is that they have never admitted they made a mistake and say they are not at fault. I think this is what lost them quite a bit of sympathy.
Nondizzyblonde said:
Agree with this, seems to be everyones elses fault but their own, they said themselves they didn't commit the crime?
What gets me is they don't look like stupid people but perhaps level headed people don't see common sense.
Would I leave my 3 year old alone in a strange place? I don't think so.....end of.
Tim.
It's just a ridiculous scenario...
I don't know anyone who would leave tiny children on there own. Never mind abroad and well out of eyeline and earshot.
I hold absolutely no sympathy for them,and the more I hear them speak the more its cements my thoughts.
Whatever happened to that poor little girl the fault lays squarely on the shoulders of her parents.
I don't know anyone who would leave tiny children on there own. Never mind abroad and well out of eyeline and earshot.
I hold absolutely no sympathy for them,and the more I hear them speak the more its cements my thoughts.
Whatever happened to that poor little girl the fault lays squarely on the shoulders of her parents.
Its a terrible thing for us to have to learn from, my girl is a similar age, and we keep a sharp look out and tell ourselves that we dont know how any parent could leave their kids and go out for dinner.
I'm sure that my mum and dad left us from time to time and im sure they weren't alone. If all the parents did was be negligent, then they have paid a terrible price that many of us could pay for any of the 1000's of things that can claim our kids
I suspect we will never know - I cant imagine what new evidence can be found now.
I'm sure that my mum and dad left us from time to time and im sure they weren't alone. If all the parents did was be negligent, then they have paid a terrible price that many of us could pay for any of the 1000's of things that can claim our kids
I suspect we will never know - I cant imagine what new evidence can be found now.
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Nondizzyblonde said:
+1 their own fault
Carol M said:
Quite interested in this sort of thing myself (crime and deception that is rather than kidnapping young girls)...
I've read loads of articles/transcripts/evidence etc on it, and probably 15-20 pages of stuff just in the last 24 hours. If I didn't want to get done for libel I'd post a few of my own thoughts on it.
Sadly due to failures to take the correct angle and hindrances from certain people the chance has been missed and she will never be found (and the truth will never truly come out).
Carol M said:
Wasn't there an accusation of drugging the children (sleeping pills), which could explain it?
Not being a parent it's hard for me to really empathise, but I agree with the sentiments of not leaving the children alone.
However, I would never wish this experience on anybody and it must be a truly horrifying experience for the parents. I've no idea what happened to Madeleine (although a Portuguese friend of mine said that the digust felt across Portugal at the fact that the parents left her alone almost certainly impact the investigation), but I hope the exposure the case has received has helped other parents who may also have been similarly naive.
The lack of response from the twins makes it very likely that they were druggedCarol M said:
- Sedatives take a fair amount of time to work
- K & G McCann refused to allow the twins to be checked for sedatives until nearly six months later, well after the point that it would be possible to detect them
- Kate McCann is a qualified anesthesiologist and would know the timeframe for detection of drugs
Is it inconceivable that parents with free and easy access to various medication, might use some to give themselves some undisturbed 'adult time'.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck I wouldn't put money on it being a dog...
NB I admit that when my kids were going through things like teething we used to look forward to giving them their pre-bedtime dose of Calpol as it always seemed to ensure that they'd get a couple of hours solid sleep and, by extension, us a couple of hours of feet-up R&R time - never really thought of it as 'drugging' them but, to some extent, that's what it was.
Well, I didn't want to come out and say it, like Ste says, you have to be careful what you write on the internet these days.
The parents say the children hadn't been given any sedatives by them but the fact the twins didn't bat so much as an eyelid during all the aftermath.....???
It's impossible for an intruder to have had time to have drugged them and quietly got away with it and chloroform wouldn't have been a viable explanation as it makes you sick and leaves burns on the face, so I've read anyway.
Also in the link Perry put on it seems it's moved on since that was written as the man carrying a child that was seen by the woman has come forward and said who he was and that it was his child he had been to pick up from a creche but there was another man seen carrying a child further away in the town.
The parents say the children hadn't been given any sedatives by them but the fact the twins didn't bat so much as an eyelid during all the aftermath.....???
It's impossible for an intruder to have had time to have drugged them and quietly got away with it and chloroform wouldn't have been a viable explanation as it makes you sick and leaves burns on the face, so I've read anyway.
Also in the link Perry put on it seems it's moved on since that was written as the man carrying a child that was seen by the woman has come forward and said who he was and that it was his child he had been to pick up from a creche but there was another man seen carrying a child further away in the town.
Carol M said:
Kidnappers/child abductors who are good enough to covertly watch and plan and then subsequently enter a room, kidnap a child and make their getaway without leaving so much as a single shred of forensic evidence and not get caught for 6 years simply wouldn't get spotted carrying a child around town.