M140i Vs M2 Dyno

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TitanTim

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Interesting thread on babybmw and some stock dyno comparisons

http://www.babybmw.net/viewtopic.php?f=74&t=93627

Very little in it performance wise and just shows how good the B58 engine is in stock form :)

Would still love an M2 though but the 15 odd K over the M140 is not really worth it for that little extra handling :|

Tim.
 
I guess the difference is even greater when discounts come into play. Makes it increasingly difficult to justify the M2 for the average Joe. But for some image is priceless I guess. I know a few M2/4 owners and they openly admit they will never use them properly, its all about image and knowing you have the range topper.
 
MACK said:
I guess the difference is even greater when discounts come into play. Makes it increasingly difficult to justify the M2 for the average Joe. But for some image is priceless I guess. I know a few M2/4 owners and they openly admit they will never use them properly, its all about image and knowing you have the range topper.
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I think you are right MACK but shows how mainstream BMW models have now come perilisly close to the M models, I think years ago this wasn't the case where spending the extra was worth it. I might be talking rubbish though :lol:

Tim.
 
Interesting results, I am seriously contemplating a M240 and have been doing some research myself. The salesman at the dealership even said it is hard to justify the extra 15K and increased running costs and road tax. Good video comparing M240 vs M2 with side by side tests towards end of video. https://youtu.be/cphuMPNcdTY
 
TitanTim said:
MACK said:
I guess the difference is even greater when discounts come into play. Makes it increasingly difficult to justify the M2 for the average Joe. But for some image is priceless I guess. I know a few M2/4 owners and they openly admit they will never use them properly, its all about image and knowing you have the range topper.
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I think you are right MACK but shows how mainstream BMW models have now come perilisly close to the M models, I think years ago this wasn't the case where spending the extra was worth it. I might be talking rubbish though :lol:

Tim.
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Its interesting, can you imagine if the N52 engined 3.0Si E85/86 came with a 300-320BHP engine out of the box. I think that would have seriously impacted M sales considerably, especially those folks who would never drive it at the limits/track it. The M was circa a £10k premium new, hell it still is at 8-10 years old!

The motor industry can be a funny place, I remember when Porsche launched the Cayman and wanted a £5k premium over the Boxster. Every other manufacturer charges a premium for the Cab not the other way round! Still they got it and its just as popular today!
 
Driving is about having fun and testing your metal, going around corners. IMHO. It's not about how fast you can accelerate in a straight line. Interesting comparison though. :thumbsup:
 
Swiftly said:
Interesting results, I am seriously contemplating a M240 and have been doing some research myself. The salesman at the dealership even said it is hard to justify the extra 15K and increased running costs and road tax. Good video comparing M240 vs M2 with side by side tests towards end of video. https://youtu.be/cphuMPNcdTY
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Go for it, the M240/140 I reckon are some the best cars BMW make at the mo :)

Tim.
 
Well last month I went down to the dealers, was offered a M240i @ £350 per month - but a M2 was £750 over 4 yrs.

Thats £19,200 more!
 
Twin Turbo said:
Well last month I went down to the dealers, was offered a M240i @ £350 per month - but a M2 was £750 over 4 yrs.

Thats £19,200 more!
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I can't remember what the customer contribution is at 350 per month, not much, on the M2 its around 7K :o and £560 per month when I enquired at the time. I just felt it was way too much over the M140i, I know its an \\\M and all that, but still.

Tim.
 
ah right. Definate must for such a car.
Should be stock imho, but with bmw nothing is stock :lol:
 
TitanTim said:
Twin Turbo said:
Well last month I went down to the dealers, was offered a M240i @ £350 per month - but a M2 was £750 over 4 yrs.

Thats £19,200 more!
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I can't remember what the customer contribution is at 350 per month, not much, on the M2 its around 7K :o and £560 per month when I enquired at the time. I just felt it was way too much over the M140i, I know its an \\\M and all that, but still.

Tim.
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It was about 4K, if I remember correctly
 
Having looked at the M135i before my A45 AMG, if the M140i was about I would probably own one - the lure of 4wd against the noise of an in line 6 would not have won :D

Looking at the figures posted - as far as I can see the A45 would be slightly quicker to 60 and to 100 ... but after that the M140i takes over. It is very quick. The 0-200kph times seem to be about a second quicker than the A45 at 14.6 versus 15.6 for the A45. The poor Golf R is down around the 18 second mark I believe. So, in the real world in the UK there is little difference but a much nicer noise with the M140i than the other two.

If I was looking now I think I would be tempted by the B58 engine in the 340i ... with a power and sound pack to take it to 360bhp. Now that would be fun. 0-62 is quoted at 4.9 but I bet it feels and sounds fun and really gets going after 60 ...
 
SO8 said:
Having looked at the M135i before my A45 AMG, if the M140i was about I would probably own one - the lure of 4wd against the noise of an in line 6 would not have won :D

Looking at the figures posted - as far as I can see the A45 would be slightly quicker to 60 and to 100 ... but after that the M140i takes over. It is very quick. The 0-200kph times seem to be about a second quicker than the A45 at 14.6 versus 15.6 for the A45. The poor Golf R is down around the 18 second mark I believe. So, in the real world in the UK there is little difference but a much nicer noise with the M140i than the other two.

If I was looking now I think I would be tempted by the B58 engine in the 340i ... with a power and sound pack to take it to 360bhp. Now that would be fun. 0-62 is quoted at 4.9 but I bet it feels and sounds fun and really gets going after 60 ...
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The B58 is certainly a storming engine with that increased torque over the N55 and higher quality internals, forged pistons etc, it definitely doesn't sound quite as good though but more refined.

Tim.
 
Yes but you cant compare a tuned car with a stock car.

The m140i in that clip has a 10hz gps speed timer in his car (I think a qstarz), so you can see very accurately his acceleration from 100-200kph.
In the last set that was 11 sec flat.
 
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