///M OEM Exhaust System fix - Zero Exhausts

inkey$

Lifer
 Sevenoaks & Suffolk
As most of you will know, around 3 weeks ago I was driving through Clapham when a relatively small pothole decided it was time for my nearside exhaust to break. Cue deep, boomy noise, loss of power and a worried looking inkey$.

Well it turns out that after much research and the help from members of this forum that the OEM system is ever so slightly a little bit rubbish - mainly around the connecting flange areas at the can ends. Must admit that I've owned my MC for nearly 2 years and have never been completely happy with the slightly lowered angle of the ns muffler. Turns out this was always the flange on its way out and it took that long and a pothole to finally do damage. Apparently M3's suffer this a lot too and most owners there opt for cheap Peugeot 66mm exhaust clamps as a fix.

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=52752

I didn't want to do that so looked at my options. They were:

1/ New xpipe (expensive)
2/ New OEM xpipe (more expensive)
3/ New aftermarket catback system (much more expensive)
4/ Second hand OEM system (potential (thanks to Ranski/Flatout))
5/ Fix it properly (better (thanks for getting me to see the light exdos))

Option 5 it was then and since the exhaust system generally was and still is in tip top condition and I liked the non-offensive sound of the stock ///M, it really turned into the only option. So I rang around and got quotes eventually stumbling across Zero Exhausts near Ashford in Kent (http://www.zeroexhausts.co.uk/). Upon emailing owner Kevin I was immediately impressed by his attitude and help as he offered up solutions based on my low rent iphone pictures. He is 60 miles away but I figured if I took things carefully then how dangerous would it be on the M20 right?

Other than a few hairy moments overtaking Corsa's in the middle lane the journey went without incident and I eventually found the farm business unit Zero worked out of. Kevin was brilliant and one of these true purists of welding and the world of custom exhausts. His workshop contained at least 3 classic MGs, a 911 and a Shelby Mustang. He talked me through what he was going to do and I handed over my keys. Found out in the car to Pluckley trains station as he dropped me off for my return to London, that he'd recently done the E46 330i of BMW Car Magazine's editor Seb - the very same man that bought that very same E46 330i from me back in 2011 as one of their featured Longtermers (and still feature to this very day).

Anyway, Kevin tells me the work will be done in about a week so I settle back and this past Saturday book my ticket back to Kent. Kevin picks me up from the station and we arrive at his workshop 5 minutes later where the work is done, my MC looks brilliant and the muffler looks like its on properly (at last!). I start her up and she sounds awesome in only that way an M can. Was a very nice journey home, only broken once to fill her up with some super octane fuel and drive a few more miles.

Also asked him to take some pictures for me so I could share the mod with you all and pass on this recommendation. Seriously guys, if you have an ///M with OEM exhaust and haven't ever checked your connecting flanges, please do so as soon as you can. They can be like filo pastry and I'd hate for somebody to lose a can at speed. This mod negated the need for the flanges and uses some very nifty weld work where the new male of the xpipe works with the new female of the mufflers and they're joined by the stainless clamp - same system as modern M3's and the same clamp manufacture and design as used by Aston Martin.

So - here is a quick rundown of events. As a bonus while it was up on the lift I got him to check the general condition of the undercarriage. Turns out it's pretty good and only mild surface rust on some areas which I'll be tackling soon.

Hope this helps...shoutout thanks to exdos, Beedub, mr.wilks, z4m-2006, mmm-five, Ranski and everybody else that helped and offered up advice.

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Glad the saga ended well Inkey$ :thumbsup: I am a mechanical novice & don,t tackle any jobs myself but i love being in the garage when my cars are on the ramp so i can have a proper nosy underneath .
Can we ask roughly what the costs on the exhaust repair were ?
 
mr wilks said:
Glad the saga ended well Inkey$ :thumbsup: I am a mechanical novice & don,t tackle any jobs myself but i love being in the garage when my cars are on the ramp so i can have a proper nosy underneath .
Can we ask roughly what the costs on the exhaust repair were ?
PM sent :thumbsup:
 
Zero's workmanship looks excellent, although pricing on their website would seem to suggest they are not cheap. Anyway, had I known about them, I might have used them when I had my back box replaced, rather than trawl all the way up to Walsall to MIJ. Looks like it was a good choice inkey$ going for option 5! :thumbsup:
 
Thanks edzed; I was extremely impressed by his welding skills. Thankfully the price wasn't extortionate and much less than a new xpipe. All depends on how easy it is for Kevin to to remove the system - then it's between 4 or 6 hours as a job and you're paying for labour as the parts themselves (2 x clamps and some stainless) are peanuts.
 
Nice Inkey$ really glad you got this sorted was really gutted for you when I read the OP.

Thanks for the advice I will definitely have a look when im getting mine ready for the summer sesh of forum meets :thumbsup:
 
Good afternoon all,

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, I just wanted to follow up on the great post by Inkey$ regarding the exhaust flange issue. He is bang on the money, this problem is shared by the E46 M3, it too suffers from serious flange corrosion, it even shares the same flange part number! Now I have seen several ways to attack this problem some are more elaborate and expensive than others but if you follow the M3cutters thread linked in the OP then you will see that thread is not the usual cheapo Peugeot clamp fix but a purposely designed product to solve this shoddy problem once and for all!

My M3 had suffered the same as most and I looked into all the options myself and found the split flange idea to be the best (in my opinion). They have been CAD designed for exact fit and replicate the OEM part geometrically for a perfect OEM fitment. I have had these manufactured and have supplied literally hundreds of these flange replacement kits all over the world and am happy to offer them here to you guys, I realise this being my first post here it all might seem a bit dodgy but you can contact me on the M3 forum or eBay for complete peace of mind. Im not detracting from the great options available elsewhere including the solution in OP but for some it’s a long journey to sort the problem, these flanges can be fitted in an afternoon with relative ease. Feel free to contact me if you’re interested in a kit

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111453123138?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_746wt_1169

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=52752&page=28



 
Talkwrench said:
Good afternoon all,

Sorry to resurrect an old thread, I just wanted to follow up on the great post by Inkey$ regarding the exhaust flange issue. He is bang on the money, this problem is shared by the E46 M3, it too suffers from serious flange corrosion, it even shares the same flange part number! Now I have seen several ways to attack this problem some are more elaborate and expensive than others but if you follow the M3cutters thread linked in the OP then you will see that thread is not the usual cheapo Peugeot clamp fix but a purposely designed product to solve this shoddy problem once and for all!

My M3 had suffered the same as most and I looked into all the options myself and found the split flange idea to be the best (in my opinion). They have been CAD designed for exact fit and replicate the OEM part geometrically for a perfect OEM fitment. I have had these manufactured and have supplied literally hundreds of these flange replacement kits all over the world and am happy to offer them here to you guys, I realise this being my first post here it all might seem a bit dodgy but you can contact me on the M3 forum or eBay for complete peace of mind. Im not detracting from the great options available elsewhere including the solution in OP but for some it’s a long journey to sort the problem, these flanges can be fitted in an afternoon with relative ease. Feel free to contact me if you’re interested in a kit

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/111453123138?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_746wt_1169

http://forums.m3cutters.co.uk/showthread.php?t=52752&page=28




Surprised nobody has responded to your offer Talkwrench, as this looks like a good solution to an unfortunately common and often unseen problem [until it's too late].

Thanks for the kind words and I hope your solution gets pick up from E46 ///M owners :thumbsup:
 
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