M /// Max wheel offset question
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I made these 12mm wheels spacers last year when I still had the E46 M3 and haven't done anything with them. From what's being said it's making think I should really get them anodised and on the car to improve it's stance.
(there's 5 in the picture as one of them is a setter)
(there's 5 in the picture as one of them is a setter)
no fit state said:I made these 12mm wheels spacers last year when I still had the E46 M3 and haven't done anything with them. From what's being said it's making think I should really get them anodised and on the car to improve it's stance.
(there's 5 in the picture as one of them is a setter)
Get them on mate , makes a world of difference . Here's a pic of my pals Mcoupe with spacers
The et38 9.5j Yorkie asked about would sit almost identical
OP...
heres a less flattering angle... this is a 9.5" rim with ET30 on the back , look at inset of the wheel, the rim your proposing will sit another 8mm inwards..... it will look pants without spacing, personally id look at another set of wheels with more ideal offsets. Nothing at all wrong with spacers but if you can get a more ideal offset and not need them, then its a no brainer, the wheels you have brought to questions are not good offsets for the ///M and without spacing will look silly.
heres a less flattering angle... this is a 9.5" rim with ET30 on the back , look at inset of the wheel, the rim your proposing will sit another 8mm inwards..... it will look pants without spacing, personally id look at another set of wheels with more ideal offsets. Nothing at all wrong with spacers but if you can get a more ideal offset and not need them, then its a no brainer, the wheels you have brought to questions are not good offsets for the ///M and without spacing will look silly.
Beedub , if i read it right i don't think the OP has ever intended fitting the et 38 9.5 rears to his M car without spacers :?
Once 10,12 mm spacers are on then he should be sitting sweet , mine are 9.5j et 28 rears & i think "Cracker" is running 19s 9.5 et 40 with 12mm spacers ??
I wouldn't want to be any wider
Once 10,12 mm spacers are on then he should be sitting sweet , mine are 9.5j et 28 rears & i think "Cracker" is running 19s 9.5 et 40 with 12mm spacers ??
I wouldn't want to be any wider
the first couple of posts from the OP didn't mention spacers.... Just would the alloy fit....
I'm suggesting find some better offset wheels without the need of spacers if possible..
I'm well into what i call aggressive fitment, it works on my track setup vehicle but as I've said many times on a normal road vehicle with normal levels of camber/ suspension compliancy etc I'm pretty sure my setup would cause significant damage to the car. i run et 29 upfront , et 23 at the rear with wide running semi slicks.. Absolutely zero contact under even the most extreme conditions... But its a setup the would not be viable for a DD at all.
I'm suggesting find some better offset wheels without the need of spacers if possible..
I'm well into what i call aggressive fitment, it works on my track setup vehicle but as I've said many times on a normal road vehicle with normal levels of camber/ suspension compliancy etc I'm pretty sure my setup would cause significant damage to the car. i run et 29 upfront , et 23 at the rear with wide running semi slicks.. Absolutely zero contact under even the most extreme conditions... But its a setup the would not be viable for a DD at all.
Mister T said:
i run 235/40 semi slick, which i wider than a street 245 section tyre...
no way you could run an 8.5" wide ET29 on the front of a z4 without running a decent amount of camber, 225 tyre or not.... the actual Rim sits proud of the fender line at stock camber levels.
Mister T said:219M with 235/40/18 Michelin Pilot Sport 3. Camber pins still fitted. Sits perfectly flush.
A 225/35/19 would have more stretch and would also have a slightly smaller diameter.
it may bolt on,.... i tested these with 3 different sets of tyres statically so nothing would get damaged, they contacted at numerous points under full compression.
now go and drive it hard and send a pic of the inner fender.... or infact send a pic of the inner fenders as they are now
Help Needed!
I would like to conservatively space out the wheels on my MR.
I am running the stock 224s (i think they are perfect for now for the roadster) and would just like to know if 10mm all round can cause any rubbing issues? The car is not lowered at the moment as i am careful not to go overboard (yet) with the mods but still have a moderately wider stance. Thanks.
Papa
I would like to conservatively space out the wheels on my MR.
I am running the stock 224s (i think they are perfect for now for the roadster) and would just like to know if 10mm all round can cause any rubbing issues? The car is not lowered at the moment as i am careful not to go overboard (yet) with the mods but still have a moderately wider stance. Thanks.
Papa
Liverpool
You 'should' be okay, but as with most things you won't really know until you try.
There were reports of some people running 19" CSLs who would get rubbing and other who would swear they had zero rubbing - same car, same wheels, same tyres (Michelin PS2 at the time).
Mine rubbed slightly over 'yumps' and on hard left corners - and I regularly wore away the arch liner.
I even get a little rear rubbing now (on OE 224Ms and 225/45r18 and 265/40r18) and I have 10mm spacers on the front to clear the Brembo brakes), but only if I have the coilovers on a softer setting (especially into the compression at Tiergarten/Hohenrain and Ex Muhle at the Ring). But if I crank it to full, the rubbing disappears - although I'd not set it that hard in the cold/wet. I'm planning on going back to 255/40r18 rears when they need replacing.
There were reports of some people running 19" CSLs who would get rubbing and other who would swear they had zero rubbing - same car, same wheels, same tyres (Michelin PS2 at the time).
Mine rubbed slightly over 'yumps' and on hard left corners - and I regularly wore away the arch liner.
I even get a little rear rubbing now (on OE 224Ms and 225/45r18 and 265/40r18) and I have 10mm spacers on the front to clear the Brembo brakes), but only if I have the coilovers on a softer setting (especially into the compression at Tiergarten/Hohenrain and Ex Muhle at the Ring). But if I crank it to full, the rubbing disappears - although I'd not set it that hard in the cold/wet. I'm planning on going back to 255/40r18 rears when they need replacing.
I used 12mm spacers without any rubbing from either 224s or CSLs both on stock suspension and later on Eibachs.
When I fitted KW Clubsports, I had to run 5mm spacers with my CSLs to clear the suspension at the front, and to reduce rubbing of the rear arch liners with big compressions. This caused rubbing of the near side front arch liner but only with full lock.
Interestingly, fitting an AP Racing BBK has increased the front track by a few millimetres and I no longer need spacers at the front to clear the suspension with the CSLs and I have no rubbing of the front arch liner, even at full lock. Without 5mm spacers, the rear still rubs slightly under load. This is because I’m using OEM discs with the AP callipers at the rear, so there has been no change in track there.
I’ve concluded that clearance across the width of the arches is marginal and that full lock brings the front tyres extremely close to the back of the brake cooling ducts in the arches. Any significant increase in wheel and tyre width or effective change in offset may cause rubbing, especially if the car is lowered.
When I fitted KW Clubsports, I had to run 5mm spacers with my CSLs to clear the suspension at the front, and to reduce rubbing of the rear arch liners with big compressions. This caused rubbing of the near side front arch liner but only with full lock.
Interestingly, fitting an AP Racing BBK has increased the front track by a few millimetres and I no longer need spacers at the front to clear the suspension with the CSLs and I have no rubbing of the front arch liner, even at full lock. Without 5mm spacers, the rear still rubs slightly under load. This is because I’m using OEM discs with the AP callipers at the rear, so there has been no change in track there.
I’ve concluded that clearance across the width of the arches is marginal and that full lock brings the front tyres extremely close to the back of the brake cooling ducts in the arches. Any significant increase in wheel and tyre width or effective change in offset may cause rubbing, especially if the car is lowered.