Gustavo7 said:tomscott said:Ive just bought a new JCW clubman... the gf wants a dog and I like minis so... certainly left field choice but actually really like it, blast to drive, bags of room and not as boring as a 3 series estate. Just drinks fuel like no tomorrow, very similar fuel consumption to the Z but engine half the size and power.
Did you buy YL67MUY by any chance?
Had this Clubman JCW All4 for two days, as you said interesting to drive... just not in the city. Very uncomfortable seats front and back. Very safe and easy to throw around with All4. Not as nice as a Cooper S Hatch imo (have one in the family). Sport mode with the pops and bangs coming off the exhuast pipes with all windows down... it’s a real laugh!
Very bad on fuel tho! Enjoy yours!
It was a pre reg but it only had 3 miles on it when we bought it.
TBH ive had the opposite experience I find it very comfy and love the recaro seats the sus is also competent too, specced to the nines too has the adaptive sus so thats maybe why also the sports exhaust which is a bit of an asbo.
This is my 4th mini having 2 R56 hatches a cooper and cooper S and an F56 cooper S in the past. The hatches are the better cars to drive but there isnt much in it, both have their pros and cons. The hatch unless your on your own they are useless for space IMO. The rear seats are impossible to use unless you have kids and are far to small for anything but a small journey for an adult and the boot is so small that you struggle to get a weekly shop in. This is the main consideration as the GF wants a dog and im a photographer so needed the boot space.
I always found the hatch to be a bit skitish and the torque steer not great either. The clubman is better in this respect having a much larger wheelbase and the All4 sends the power to the rear. I think it is far more competent but its not as chuckable obviously, it did take a while to get used to it and how to drive it to its best. The other thing is the Clubman is much larger inside the rear seats have loads of room and can comfortably hold and adult and the boot is so much more usable and with the hidden cubby underneath dropping the seats gives a great space too.
The main thing for me is that although its bigger and heavier there isnt really any compromise the performance is the same as the JCW hatch and you get twice the room. Its a daily for me so its not a weekender and so I appreciate that more than the hatch. Still havent seen another either which is a real plus for me.
Something like a 330D would have made more sense and for the same price the golf R is quicker, but I really love the personality of the minis, the VWs are drab inside in comparison and the 3 series is just everywhere. Like having something that isnt quite the norm
Liverpool
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North West Surrey
45k MR for £23k 
