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derin100 said:
Marlon said:
tomscott said:
About 300 miles or 25% Service intervals weren't brilliant either. If its a car that's been owned in a family from father to son and it was bought new and they cant even get the first service done properly it doesn't fill you with confidence.

The roof wear, the canvas is warn and the rear window is delaminating. The drivers seat bagginess is also suspect for the mileage. Lots of small journeys I suspect and not so well looked after for a "stunning example" which is why I would say it hasn't sold. Wish the dealers wouldn't BS all the time.

We need you to be our ///M 'mystery shopper' Tom - wonderful attention to detail :thumbsup:

I must admit it was with some consternation whilst scrolling back through the pages of this thread yesterday that I stumbled upon this car being talked about and whilst no pictures from the link still exist I suddenly realised that the car in question must be the one that I bought a few weeks ago and the day before I bought the Alpina Roadster number 254.

Also, as the car is stored and I wasn't immediately able to check and have also never taken the hardtop off I was suddenly worried. You see, I bought both this car and Alpina 254 'unseen'. The owner of 254 (a forum member) kindly delivered the car to me and the dealer that I bought the Z4M from did the same.

So, it was with some trepidation that I got my wife to help me get the hardtop off just now.

So (thankfully!), just to put the record straight....

The soft-top is absolutely pristine! The is not a stain, scruff, snag, piece of stitching or fabric out of place! It almost looks like it has never been used! What might have been seen in photos was light reflecting in a funny way off the folds...I noticed that in the photos I viewed and I knew what it was. There is certainly no wear on this soft-top whatsoever.

Similarly, there is no screen delamination on either the soft-top rear screen or that of the hardtop. I think what you maybe saw was either dried water droplets (that's what it looks like on the photos that I saved). The windows have had a dark tinting film applied (not sure if it's even legal) and at one point on the driver's window a tiny bit is beginning to peel up. I'll probably be taking all of the tinting film off anyway.

The interior is virtually pristine. This is no slight to Alpina 254 (because it's previous owners have all looked after it very well) but it is in even better condition than '254' and the two car's mileages are very similar. All of the leather retains its original matt texture...including the steering wheel. A cliché I know, but the passenger seat truly looks like it has never been sat in. The car has covered 45K miles...I'm about 14st...I'm sure if I sat on a leather seat base for 45k there would be some degree of leather stretch. In no way is it excessive at all and I find it difficult to envisage a 45k mile interior being much better.

The Running-in service was done at 1490 miles. That's well within the "no questions to ask or answer" window of 700 - 1700 miles as far as BMW are concerned. There's just no issue there.

Being critical about the car:
Yes, it has never had an Insp 2. I don't have the book in front of me at the moment but I'm pretty sure it has had 5 services (not including the Running-in service) of which three have been Insp 1. The last two Insp 1s being only about 1100 miles apart. (The dealership I bought it from said they'd actually also just changed the plugs and coil-packs...I don't know for sure if that's true or why they would have changed the coil-packs unless there was a problem).

Finally, "Yes"...those wheels are not really to my taste either. You see, I'm a bit of a stickler for originality. To that end I had already bought a set off 224s from a forum member to go on it...actually before I even got the car! I'm going to have them refurbished and reshod. The wheels and tyres that came with are, as said, not to my taste but they literally have only the 170 miles on them that the dealer put on them in delivering the car and so are effectively brand new. I've looked at what these exact wheels and tyres (they're only a budget brand) cost from sellers on Ebay...it's a £799 package. I'll just put them up for sale and someone on M3Cutters will have them off me I'm sure.

So, all-in-all, I'm actually very relieved (and satisfied!). I looked quite hard at the market when I decided to buy and there was nothing with this spec and mileage around for this price. I haven't really bought it to drive very much; more as something better than seeing cash in a bank depreciate. To that end, low mileage was very important to me. As we know, come any re-sale that is one of, if not THE biggest factor in the market and high mileage is something that can't be undone or fixed...well, not legally anyway! :lol:

I haven't detailed the car yet (just no time at all at the moment) but once I have I'll get some photos of it up on my website.




I have seen some of the previous cars you have done Derin..

Looking forward to the Z4MC when finished... :thumbsup:
 
Thanks! :thumbsup:

I'm just so busy with other 'stuff' at the moment I don't have any time to devote to the cars. Both mine and my wife's daily cars are in a shameful state at the moment...

(It's a Z4MR)
 
If your worried about mileage when buying these cars, might be worth having a read of this.
https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph-features/mega-mile-murcielago-ph-heroes/36026?utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=Enews%20Bulletin&utm_content=PHDS%20-%20ENews%20Bulletin%20(06.04.2017)::Main_1&utm_source=20170406
 
The Lambo is a bit triggers broom. It's had numerous rebuilds and repairs even before the £90k crash repair. Fair play tho keeping it going.
 
Do you know that for a fact ? Your probably right but it does not say if its the original un opened block or not. I have had a few cars with over 200k on the original unopened petrol block. We seem a bit hung up over mileage in this country.
 
I believe so because Evo magazine covered this car in detail monthly in the fast fleet over many yrs. It's had loads of work done, clutches mainly. I'll ask him tho for sure he's on my fb friends.
 
Yea here you go, I love that car it's a cracking way to rack up the miles keeping it going.

Hi Chris yea sure. It's the original engine - but has had 3 top end rebuilds (1 of these at the factory) and 1 bottom end.
Gearbox is also original but has been rebuilt twice.
Hope that helps. Cheers for the comments! Simon
 
Going on the mileage issue for z4m if the rod bearings have been done right that would take away any major worries I'd have tbh, probably prefer one with that work done rather than never touched at say 70k+ miles
 
Anyone been to see this? High mileage but tempting if it's been properly serviced.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704184517302?atmobcid=soc3
 
bmwaddict said:
Anyone been to see this? High mileage but tempting if it's been properly serviced.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704184517302?atmobcid=soc3

the paintwork on that.. good god :o I can see the clear coat damage from the pictures.. "AG products" what, their sand paper?
 
:rofl:
Yeah needs work, but that's sortable, I'm more concerned about the engine and mechanical condition than the cosmetics.
 
bmwaddict said:
:rofl:
Yeah needs work, but that's sortable, I'm more concerned about the engine and mechanical condition than the cosmetics.

Call/message and check history.
Looks nice from the pics. Maybe a mop and it could be sorted.
 
bmwaddict said:
Anyone been to see this? High mileage but tempting if it's been properly serviced.

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201704184517302?atmobcid=soc3

Think that's an ex forum members car.
Ask dannyg_m3 as I think it was his friends car and he's still active on here.
Check special_rides account on instagram, there's a pic with the original plate.
...I should've been a detective
 
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