M market watch

Hey guys, I posed this question in off-topic but haven't had a response so thought this might be a more appropriate place. I've been tracking the price of Z4M roadsters here in Oz for the past 24 months along with colour, dates, how long they took to sell and other notes. It's all in a nice spreadsheet ;)

In that time there has only been 20 cars listed, 6 currently unsold. The price has been coming down over time and at the moment an example of average 50k kms on the clock has been selling for around $45k. The cars that haven't sold are from private sellers and listed at least $10k higher than this. Some of them have been listed for many months.

The dream colour combo was listed a few weeks ago and I'm flirting with the idea of an upgrade. The problem is that it's one of the aforementioned overpriced cars.

My question is: how do you go about telling the seller that his car is 20% overpriced and not sounding like an opportunistic tyre kicker? The car is interstate so all discussion has to be done by phone or email. Should I offer to send my spreadsheet justifying my claim?
 
I like your mathematical spreadsheet approach
To pursue the chosen one i would initially make contact with the usual questions asked on any used car
Ask for more pics & when you are 100% sure throw your offer on the table on the basis that its there for the seller to consider & get back to you as opposed to giving him the " here is my first & final offer , take it or leave it "
Keep us posted how things go
 
Yeah I'm an engineer so spreadsheets are pretty much a given. Plus the small number of Z4Ms here and a car trading website with an absolute monopoly (particularly in the higher price car segment) makes it pretty easy to track ;)

I did consider the approach you suggest, but I was thinking if I were in the seller's shoes wouldn't I get a bit pissed off with someone if I spent a lot of time discussing with them only for them to come back with such a low offer? Then again, I guess that's just how it works. At the end of the day I'm certain he won't sell at the current price, even if it's the only one of this colour here.
 
Well it seems my wingman is ejecting http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-BMW-Z4-M-GREY-/121784638097?hash=item1c5aee1a91
Its a great car i know well :wink: go easy on him :(

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mr wilks said:
Well it seems my wingman is ejecting http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-BMW-Z4-M-GREY-/121784638097?hash=item1c5aee1a91
Its a great car i know well :wink: go easy on him :(

is he going roadster?
 
Another low miler......MR....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-M-POWER-2006/291583434438?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33840%26meid%3D5232dc15ae00411d83b219c4f10c4910%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D121784638097
 
Z4M-2006 said:
Another low miler......MR....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-M-POWER-2006/291583434438?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33840%26meid%3D5232dc15ae00411d83b219c4f10c4910%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D121784638097

Certainly been posted before, remember the badge on the dash. Looks like the last owner didn't have for long.
 
Mangozac said:
I've been tracking the price of Z4M roadsters here in Oz for the past 24 months along with colour, dates, how long they took to sell and other notes. It's all in a nice spreadsheet ;)

shame you was not looking at coupes, i could have told you exactly how many colours were available in oz
 
srhutch said:
Z4M-2006 said:
Another low miler......MR....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-Z4-M-POWER-2006/291583434438?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D33840%26meid%3D5232dc15ae00411d83b219c4f10c4910%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D121784638097

Certainly been posted before, remember the badge on the dash. Looks like the last owner didn't have for long.

Another buy and flip....

Guess its just the kinda car they are..
 
mr wilks said:
Taz said:
mr wilks said:
Well it seems my wingman is ejecting http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-BMW-Z4-M-GREY-/121784638097?hash=item1c5aee1a91
Its a great car i know well :wink: go easy on him :(

is he going roadster?

That's a factor along with a job change

i think the last trip out may have scared hin off lol
 
mr wilks said:
Taz said:
mr wilks said:
Well it seems my wingman is ejecting http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-BMW-Z4-M-GREY-/121784638097?hash=item1c5aee1a91
Its a great car i know well :wink: go easy on him :(

is he going roadster?

That's a factor along with a job change

Does he fancy a swap? It would save me buying a hardtop for the winter...
 
mr wilks said:
Well it seems my wingman is ejecting http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2007-BMW-Z4-M-GREY-/121784638097?hash=item1c5aee1a91
Its a great car i know well :wink: go easy on him :(

What's Mark going for next Andy? Roadster?

Edit: just seen previous post
 
veilside85 said:
I would of seriously been interested in that grey coupe if it wasn't for the milage :headbang:

I'm in the same boat matey...

83k is a little too much for me but then I guess as long as the vehicle has been well maintained then mileage shouldn't matter....

Hoping a few more come on the market now the cold weather is here...
 
Jamesbacon7 said:
veilside85 said:
I would of seriously been interested in that grey coupe if it wasn't for the milage :headbang:

I'm in the same boat matey...

83k is a little too much for me but then I guess as long as the vehicle has been well maintained then mileage shouldn't matter....

Hoping a few more come on the market now the cold weather is here...

As with most used cars lower miles = higher price :wink:
All well looked after Zs wear their miles well but if looking for a daily driver then common sense has to prevail as to what is a reasonable number to start from
Pacience is the key
 
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