M Car
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gaffer1986 said:Well they have bought out a "proper" M2 so I suppose the difference between them is what makes an M car. From what I can see, the M2 has a locking diff, 60bhp more and four exhausts. Perhaps it needs 4 exhausts to be an M car
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Yeah I think all 'real' M cars have the quad exhausts from factory.
gaffer1986
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Confirmed then, I can now say I have an M car. Why does this remind me of bond
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Z4M is definitely a proper M car - same S series engine as the E46 M3!
As far as I an see it is more "M" than the current M3, M4, M5 & M6 as they seem to just have a modified version of a regular production engine rather an a bespoke unit - but it looks like "bespoke" is about to become a thing of the past. (Actually that may have already happened)!
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I hope you have been enjoying it!
As far as I an see it is more "M" than the current M3, M4, M5 & M6 as they seem to just have a modified version of a regular production engine rather an a bespoke unit - but it looks like "bespoke" is about to become a thing of the past. (Actually that may have already happened)!
Congratulations OP
I hope you have been enjoying it!CornishRob
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Z4M is an epic car M car or Not...
But yes, it's a proper M car. The engine is borderline exotic
But yes, it's a proper M car. The engine is borderline exotic
It might have been back in the year 2000 when it launched but it's getting on a bit now though, what I do love about the engine is that is has far more depth and character when compared to the current M offerings and for that I think it will always be remembered fondly.CornishRob said:
gaffer1986
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Having picked it up Saturday and done 500 ish miles in it. I now believe M stands for Muscle, I'm not used to having so much power under my right foot and feel very privileged to be driving such a machine. I definitely made the right choice over the Boxster S and I'm glad I'm selling the VX220 because the BMW is more intoxicating more of the time. It seems the angle of the gas pedal is a direct correlation to the angle of the car 
Although I will miss the VX220s rawness and handling finesse when the moment calls.
Although I will miss the VX220s rawness and handling finesse when the moment calls.
gaffer1986
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Bing said:
I'll say it's the last "proper" M car because it's the last car to need a BIG leg ///Muscle to operate the clutch. I definitely don't hold that pedal down longer than I need to! I'm only 9.5 stone so my legs aren't used to that kind of weight. When I get back in the Leon I press the clutch so hard I feel I'll break the pedal
LostBoy_84 said:gaffer1986 said:Well they have bought out a "proper" M2 so I suppose the difference between them is what makes an M car. From what I can see, the M2 has a locking diff, 60bhp more and four exhausts. Perhaps it needs 4 exhausts to be an M car
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Yeah I think all 'real' M cars have the quad exhausts from factory.
WOAH....
E28 M5 and E30 M3 - the 2 cars that started it all... twin pipes on those.
I totally agree that the Z4M is the last proper M car though!
gaffer1986
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Clark said:LostBoy_84 said:gaffer1986 said:Well they have bought out a "proper" M2 so I suppose the difference between them is what makes an M car. From what I can see, the M2 has a locking diff, 60bhp more and four exhausts. Perhaps it needs 4 exhausts to be an M car
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Yeah I think all 'real' M cars have the quad exhausts from factory.
WOAH....
E28 M5 and E30 M3 - the 2 cars that started it all... twin pipes on those.
I totally agree that the Z4M is the last proper M car though!
What about the E92 M3?
For the traditionalist/lovers of a straight six the V8 counts against it I suppose but yes its certainly the last N/A M car though.gaffer1986 said:
I thought the S65 V8 in the E92 M3 was something special in terms of the way it revved and its hunger on its top end but similar to the S54 it is a little torque light though, I would have also loved to have seen it put into a Z4 rather than it having to drag 1650kg around with it in the M3.
LeeZ4MR said:
Yes the e92 was the last manual N/A M car, but IMO not really a 'Proper M car' although technically it absolutely is!
The car is mega heavy and being totally honest, having owned one after my z4m left me a bit cold. I have an e91 Sport plus as a daily... and I think its a better car!
Mine left me cold too and I had one after my Z4M as wellClark said:LeeZ4MR said:
Yes the e92 was the last manual N/A M car, but IMO not really a 'Proper M car' although technically it absolutely is!
The car is mega heavy and being totally honest, having owned one after my z4m left me a bit cold. I have an e91 Sport plus as a daily... and I think its a better car!
It might sound mad but as a daily I actually prefer my 330i to the M3
gaffer1986
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Apparently the new M3 and M4 engines are so good that you can't notice the turbo?
I had an M4 for a weekend, did about 500 miles in the car,
Also left me cold, no doubt a capable car, but it wasn't much fun and I don't like the DCT box which the demo had,
You don't really know its a turbo unless you are short shifting... it sounds like an astra VXR too.. which I couldn't live with!
Also left me cold, no doubt a capable car, but it wasn't much fun and I don't like the DCT box which the demo had,
You don't really know its a turbo unless you are short shifting... it sounds like an astra VXR too.. which I couldn't live with!
LeeZ4MR said:
^^this!
I do like the e9x M3 and am tempted by the v8 but it doesn't make financial sense and a few other factors. Sticking the s65 into the z4M as a project can't be wrong though - we just need to get Stevie.w interested - although I think that might be difficult given he's already all over the s85....
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