Loud tappet like noises from Engine....

Well, here she is.

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Not happy..

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Happier...

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The experts here will have a better idea of whats going on but she feels great now she's back. OK I'm being very gentle but it feels like how she felt when I wasn't pressing on.

380 miles to go.....
 
Well she's just had the run in oil change and is purring like a kitten (ferocious kitten maybe).

Not really able to take her up to crazy revs but high enough to know all is well.

She'll be going back to get the heat shield sorted but all in all deeply happy to have her back.
 
Excellent :)
I can't quite see enough detail in the first piston picture, is that damage to the edge/ringland at the top right of the photo?
 
Beedub said:
more to the point for the people in the know, i actually think full bmwSH is nothing to point me towards a car, all thats happened is you've paid more for most likely a lovely standard of work. If i came across 2 cars one had full bmw sh and one had full sh at a well known indie, id choose the well known indie all day long.

Couldn't agree more.
 
bmwaddict said:
Beedub said:
more to the point for the people in the know, i actually think full bmwSH is nothing to point me towards a car, all thats happened is you've paid more for most likely a lovely standard of work. If i came across 2 cars one had full bmw sh and one had full sh at a well known indie, id choose the well known indie all day long.

Couldn't agree more.

Yup and I agree with all of the above. The problem is, your average driver / owner is mostly clueless about their cars. The very fact we're here defines us as enthusiasts. So we'll know someone or can be pointed at someone reputable who knows a great deal more than we do. Then again we're enthusiasts and comes as part and parcel of why we frequent forums, go to meets etc.

The bad news is those average owners or prospective owners wouldn't know a decent indie from a complete rip off merchant.

That's where a main dealer service history comes in, yup it might be worthless to some but when they take your key to a dealer, they get a warm fluffy glow from big bills and a sign of regular (costly) maintenance.

Funny story, my best mate (no, really he is!) got a 320D at around the same time we got our 330i, he barely drives it and literally 6 minutes into ownership decided to take it out of the main dealer for servicing etc (save a few bob etc) he's barely 80k in and now has all manner of issues and wants to get rid.

In contrast we always stuck main dealer (got preventative maintenance done plus regular servicing) a decade and 160k later we get our 1st break down. Alternator died, apart from that we have no issues with it but we are going to replace it.

If you know a great Indie than awesome! If not, in my experience, main dealer might be a bit more expensive but I've had no issues.

My only caveat is if you look at getting something a bit leggy, get it independently checked.

Lessons learned and all that. I'd highly recommend Autobahn if you need work done in the Midlands from an Indie.

Cheers

T1b
 
thats a fair statement tbh......

This motor can service up some scares, and its only getting older :-(
 
Fishy Dave said:
Excellent :)
I can't quite see enough detail in the first piston picture, is that damage to the edge/ringland at the top right of the photo?

Looks like to gap in the ring due to not being under compression.
 
I dare say thats more to do with 320d v 330d to be honest...

The 4 cylinder diesel is pretty crap.

Not BMW but we did an Audi last week,car was a 2008,full Audi Service history.... Pollen filter date,2009...
 
Z4M-2006 said:
I dare say thats more to do with 320d v 330d to be honest...

The 4 cylinder diesel is pretty crap.

Not BMW but we did an Audi last week,car was a 2008,full Audi Service history.... Pollen filter date,2009...
Got to agree with this my indi said he has changed so many 2.0D engines that he can change them in under 2 hours now.
 
Gazc said:
Z4M-2006 said:
I dare say thats more to do with 320d v 330d to be honest...

The 4 cylinder diesel is pretty crap.

Not BMW but we did an Audi last week,car was a 2008,full Audi Service history.... Pollen filter date,2009...
Got to agree with this my indi said he has changed so many 2.0D engines that he can change them in under 2 hours now.

Sheesh, that's some going!

Respect...

Mike
 
A lot of the follower failures seem to happen not long after an inspection 2 from what I have read, does anybody know what's the causes the the follower to wear away ,poor hardening, incorrect adjustment, lack of inspection to see how badly they are worn before shimming. There must be a maximum shim that can be fitted shortly before failure. Why only a couple seem to wear badly. If it was a bad batch of material then surely all of them would wear out equally. Thoughts?
 
r0bb0 said:
Why only a couple seem to wear badly. If it was a bad batch of material then surely all of them would wear out equally. Thoughts?

Maybe because the follower deteriorates so quickly once the case hardening has gone, that you’d need all follower coatings to fail at *exactly* the same time to see equal wear.

But you do hear of only one follower failing sometimes. I don’t know whether this means that just one follower started tapping or only the coating on one follower failed (or both). That would be inconsistent with bad batches, assuming that engines are fitted with followers with contiguous production dates.
 
MrPT said:
r0bb0 said:
Why only a couple seem to wear badly. If it was a bad batch of material then surely all of them would wear out equally. Thoughts?

Maybe because the follower deteriorates so quickly once the case hardening has gone, that you’d need all follower coatings to fail at *exactly* the same time to see equal wear.

But you do hear of only one follower failing sometimes. I don’t know whether this means that just one follower started tapping or only the coating on one follower failed (or both). That would be inconsistent with bad batches, assuming that engines are fitted with followers with contiguous production dates.

Generally bearings on a rotating shaft, or wear points like followers all wear at different rates due to oil flow, temperature and loads due to the shaft 'flexing' at high rotation speeds. I also think you are spot-on with the point about accelerated wear once the hardened surface is breached, once a wear point develops it will always catch. My guess is that as with crank bearings the same followers probably wear first on average engines. "The all do that sir, it's a wear-and-tear characteristic nothing we can do" ..... as the BMW warranty agent would say :wink:
 
As above. The case hardening on the followers is very thin, once it’s gone, the follower fairly quickly trashes the cam lobe with which it’s paired.
Schrick sell coated OEM followers that should lessen the wear rate.
 
In other news, she's going back this weekend for some exhaust heat shield welding action, wheel refurbs and dyno run.

In totally unrelated news, our long serving E92 330i is being replaced by a 440i on Thursday. 158k and a decade later she's being replaced.

I will shed a tear.
 
T1berious said:
In other news, she's going back this weekend for some exhaust heat shield welding action, wheel refurbs and dyno run.
The new bearings are supposed to have a run-in period of 1k miles or so - not sure I'd want to be putting it on a dyno that soon :?
 
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