Lotus Emira V6 depreciation!

On an almost related subject, I suppose your knob and your Fauxrrari are very similar in many respects - both are priceless from your perspective but would be worth nothing if you tried to sell them. It’s quite likely that both have cost you rather more than you might have expected in the time you’ve had them. You’ve spent hours fiddling with them both in secluded corners. It’s going to take an awful lot of work to get the Fauxrrari working properly and there’s a significant risk it’s going to be an ugly mess that you’ll forever hide from others… :lol:
 
Pondrew said:
True-Blue said:
Despite all their faults, I still catch myself on Autotrader looking at them now and then…. If I had limitless money and a massive garage I’d have one, just to go for early morning blasts of 50 -100 miles for no other reason than to drive the doors off it
The A110 is probably the only 'proper' sportscar left being made. They are very light (very in modern terms) and a great car, by all accounts.
Being made by Renault is not a downside, IMO, they have made some stonking cars over the years. As long as you disregard the electrics which the French never seem to have got the hang of.
BUT.....have you actually seen how it looks? My God it is fugly. It's like the bastard child of a radiated Sprite and an Audi Q7 who were both pissed on a day out in Skegness and had a knee trembler behind the chippy.

This thread was about the Emira....I don't think ANYONE could say it is ugly, whether it is a good car or not (it will be a good 'car' as it's a Lotus). Whether it's a good car to own is under review.

I would have an Emira tomorrow. It is the ONLY car I lust after these days; being sensible and realistic. :D

Afternoon,,

Yes, I realise the thread was about the Emira specifically, funnily enough there was one at a classic car meet on a 23 plate this morning :rofl:

Old, old, old, old, 23 plate, old, old etc.

It looked fantastic, still quite small though by modern standards. It’s the kind of car you could own for a decade or more and it would probably garner a fairly consistent level of interest over the entire period. It did get me thinking a bit…

I do wonder if the dream of owning multiple toy cars matches the reality. The Alpina isn’t a match for the Cayman in most measurable ways, but it’s lovely, and the 3.4 straight six is such a lovely engine… if the suns out and I’m not going long distance I’d probably just take that and leave the Porsche at home :?
 
coldel said:
I wasnt sold on the A110 when it first got redone, I appreciated it harked back to its original look but it didn't quite nail that modern but classic look. The S does look good though. Weirdly, the A110 doesn't photograph well, a bit like the VX220, which looked much better in reality than a distorted flat pic from a camera would give.

Sports cars for sure are becoming marginalised by the day, that performance car that is just in reach for your everyday person are just falling out the development roadmaps. The Cayman is a great car, but its very engineered and personally when I took one out, felt it was almost too easy to drive fast.

Completely understand that the looks are divisive, and I’ve not driven an Emira so can’t compare - clearly the Lotus wins on looks! But there is something I like about the way the Alpine looks when it’s sat there in front of you. It doesn’t photograph very well.

If the Emira has a decent degree of reliability it might be a prudent ‘nearly new’ purchase, big depreciation hit out of the way and a car that will look good for many years… how do they drive though?

I hear what you say about the Cayman, but the Alpine is even more ludicrously easy to fire down a B road. Had an hour long test drive and was smitten.
 
I look at the prices of the A110 and don't think it merits the price. The Cayman looks good and is a fantastic car to drive.

I look at the Emira and desire one.
 
True-Blue said:
If the Emira has a decent degree of reliability it might be a prudent ‘nearly new’ purchase, big depreciation hit out of the way and a car that will look good for many years… how do they drive though?
Chris Harris was very complimentary when he tested one.
 
I would be surprised if it didn't drive well as it was based on the Evora which was a well balanced car.
Glad we are talking lightweights though, I loved both my VX220s. The second one I properly went to town on getting the interior completely redone.
 
True-Blue said:
I hear what you say about the Cayman, but the Alpine is even more ludicrously easy to fire down a B road. Had an hour long test drive and was smitten.

I am pretty easy to please when it comes to cars, thought it is getting tougher since purchasing and loving my Z4 Coupe. Whilst I'd happily be a 1m subscriber car review channel and get to drive all sorts of cars, when it comes down to it I'm not overly bothered. I'd love to try a Z4MC. Lotus Exige and Elise. I have to own an MX-5 and E85 one day. And I have a massive soft spot for TVRs, not least the Sagaris and 350C. Beyond that it's land rovers, some much older cars (TVR and Marcos GT and AC Cobra especially... and also the 70s Corvette and A110) and almost nothing very modern.

I went down a bit of an A110 rabbit hole on youtube over the weekend, and hands-down, if I could afford / justify one and had to go and spend my own money on a car made in the last 10 years it would be one of those - the reviews are both highly complimentary, and all say the sorts of things I want to hear.
 
Fred Smith said:
And I have a massive soft spot for TVRs, not least the Sagaris and 350C. Beyond that it's land rovers, some much older cars (TVR and Marcos GT and AC Cobra especially... and also the 70s Corvette and A110) and almost nothing very modern.

I was seriously thinking of building an AC Cobra replica a while back. I went to one of the big manufacturers of the replicas near me and took one of their 'demos' for a test drive. It was horrendous. Pretty much undriveable on UK roads. Great for posing in a pub car park on a sunny day, or doing burn-outs outside Halfords but not for anything else. Too much power with far too much torque (big old yank V8), very light, weight all at the front, uncomfortable...you name it.
Then I totted up the cost.....around £80k in 2019. So I walked away.

The old saying of never meet your heros definitely applied.
 
If it’s A110 / Caymen that you want to try, get yourself down to Thruxton where you can drive both without having to buy one. It’s an expensive test drive, but you do get to explore close to the limits in a fairly safe environment.
 
Pondrew said:
I was seriously thinking of building an AC Cobra replica a while back. I went to one of the big manufacturers of the replicas near me and took one of their 'demos' for a test drive. It was horrendous. Pretty much undriveable on UK roads. Great for posing in a pub car park on a sunny day, or doing burn-outs outside Halfords but not for anything else. Too much power with far too much torque (big old yank V8), very light, weight all at the front, uncomfortable...you name it.
Then I totted up the cost.....around £80k in 2019. So I walked away.

The old saying of never meet your heros definitely applied.

Two out of three isn't bad. Assuming I hated driving it I reckon I could still have some fun!

But yeah, just cos I have it on my list does not mean it would be a great idea to buy one!
 
Pondrew said:
I was seriously thinking of building an AC Cobra replica a while back.

Funny you should say that as I went to a Z meet at Gaydon last April and someone brought this Z3 based Cobra replica along.

Z3 Cobra.jpg

Being Z3 based it may well have driven better than the one you looked at!
 
Mr Tidy said:
Pondrew said:
I was seriously thinking of building an AC Cobra replica a while back.

Funny you should say that as I went to a Z meet at Gaydon last April and someone brought this Z3 based Cobra replica along.

Z3 Cobra.jpg

Being Z3 based it may well have driven better than the one you looked at!

Iain, that’s horrible. It’s kit cars like that that give them a bad name. FUGLY imho.

At least Pondy’s will look fantastic :D
 
Argyll Andy said:
Mr Tidy said:
Pondrew said:
I was seriously thinking of building an AC Cobra replica a while back.
Funny you should say that as I went to a Z meet at Gaydon last April and someone brought this Z3 based Cobra replica along.

Z3 Cobra.jpg

Being Z3 based it may well have driven better than the one you looked at!

Iain, that’s horrible. It’s kit cars like that that give them a bad name. FUGLY imho.

Agreed Andrew. Those Tribute 'Kobras' are just all wrong, for so many reasons.
OK, a 'real' Cobra replica may be terrible to drive, but at least they look, and sound, the part.

My attitude to all this 'replica' business is 'go big or go home'.
There are so many people who have built terrible replicas and then wonder where all their hard-earned money went when they come to sell. Those Kobra things are worth nothing, as are all of the Tribute abominations.
 
Argyll Andy said:
Iain, that’s horrible. It’s kit cars like that that give them a bad name. FUGLY imho.

At least Pondy’s will look fantastic :D

I like kit cars etc, and think there's a room for everything.

#1 - a real AC Cobra
#2 - a faithful recreation that looks, sounds and drives the same
#3 - a less faithful recreation which as least gives you some of the looks, and potentially gives you something else on top (for example a car that is much easier to daily)
#4 - a generic car that hints at what it's based on but more evokes an era than copies a particular car.

Totally get why someone would only settle for a #1 or a #2, but there's room for everything. Totally get why someone would say "My attitude to all this 'replica' business is 'go big or go home'. " Totally get why the #3s and #4s are not easy to sell.
 
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