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Looooong gap between songs MP3

mj2k

Senior member
Hi,

Just threw a load of songs onto a CD for the wife's Z4 in MP3 format, but was surprised to find a c.10s gap between tracks.

Almost as though the car struggles to read the next set of data.

Is this something anyone else has noticed?

Matt
 
No more than 1s for mine - in either the single-slot in the dash or the multi-changer (unless it's changing disc).
 
I'd guess some kind of read error/retry in the CD drive. Mine plays OK as long as all the files are in the root folder, but when I tried a CD where they're in subfolders of the root it can only read a few of the subfolders, and there's a long delay while it hunts for the next readable track.

You could try a different brand or type of CD media - many CD drives are fussy about CD/RW, for example. You could also try burning the CD on a different CD writer, if you have one, and perhaps at a lower speed. Although we're given the impression that digital recording is an all-or-nothing affair, CDs seem to be very error-prone.
 
walker1c said:
I'd guess some kind of read error/retry in the CD drive. Mine plays OK as long as all the files are in the root folder, but when I tried a CD where they're in subfolders of the root it can only read a few of the subfolders, and there's a long delay while it hunts for the next readable track.

You could try a different brand or type of CD media - many CD drives are fussy about CD/RW, for example. You could also try burning the CD on a different CD writer, if you have one, and perhaps at a lower speed. Although we're given the impression that digital recording is an all-or-nothing affair, CDs seem to be very error-prone.

Not entirely sure how to ensure it is the root folder, I used iTunes to burn a playlist as MP3 format. Perhaps iTunes is the problem?!

Hope not, as since i asked it to organise my music many a year ago, the file locations for the files seem to rather illogical, which limits my ability to just use windows to burn the songs!

Will also try another CD brand & lower the burn speed.

Thanks
 
mj2k said:
mmm-five said:
No more than 1s for mine - in either the single-slot in the dash or the multi-changer (unless it's changing disc).

Interesting, did you use iTunes?
Sometimes iTunes (on a Mac), sometimes Nero if I need to fit a bit more data on than iTunes will allow.
 
^ Very strange, I will try again over the weekend when I can bear to cope with how slowly iTunes runs on a PC - am sure it a far less frustrating experience when using a Mac.

Might also try locating the files directly & using Nero, although that will take considerably longer!
 
I've told iTunes not to sort my music for me, and simply keep a single HDD for my iTunes music library - sorted by artist/album/etc.
 
Solved! I created a playlist & got iTunes to convert to MP3, even though many of them were already. They were reduced to 160kbps files and they now play without the huge gaps between songs.

Wondering it the file sizes was causing the issues, as all of my music was uploaded via iTunes match when I got the appleTV & my understanding was that this swapped all of my files for high quality ones.
 
Mine are stored at 320kbps, but are converted to 192 or 128kpbs when I burn the MP3 CD as the extra sound quality won't be noticeable in the car over the exhaust.

It also means I get twice as many tunes per CD.

I've just remembered an issue I had a few years ago where the gaps seemed to be bigger than normal - but it wasn't the gap that was actually longer, it was the fact that iTunes (or me) had put dodgy (0kb) duplicate files in the same directory so the head unit would finish playing one song, try to load the next for a couple of seconds, and finally give up and continue to the next one.
 
mj2k said:
walker1c said:
I'd guess some kind of read error/retry in the CD drive. Mine plays OK as long as all the files are in the root folder, but when I tried a CD where they're in subfolders of the root it can only read a few of the subfolders, and there's a long delay while it hunts for the next readable track.

You could try a different brand or type of CD media - many CD drives are fussy about CD/RW, for example. You could also try burning the CD on a different CD writer, if you have one, and perhaps at a lower speed. Although we're given the impression that digital recording is an all-or-nothing affair, CDs seem to be very error-prone.

Not entirely sure how to ensure it is the root folder, I used iTunes to burn a playlist as MP3 format. Perhaps iTunes is the problem?!

Hope not, as since i asked it to organise my music many a year ago, the file locations for the files seem to rather illogical, which limits my ability to just use windows to burn the songs!

Will also try another CD brand & lower the burn speed.

Thanks

Sorry about the techie mumbo-jumbo. It sounds like the problem was unplayable files, but you seem to have sorted it.

As a matter of interest, does your head unit display track titles, or just something like "TR003-007"? (Here 7 is the number of the file in the folder and 3 is the folder number, which will be zero if everything is in the root folder)
 
Unfortunately it displays track numbers rather than the track titles. My 2012 JCW shows titles, so guessing an age related thing.

Strangely, I do have several silent tracks & can't work out why that would be....or which they are to remove in the next mix I burn :headbang:

Any ideas??
 
I find some of the new ID3 tags don't display the track details with our older head units.

I change all mine to v2.0 and the info then appears whether in the single or multi-cd.

The invisible tracks from burning on my Mac came about by trying to be clever and just copy the MP3 files from the folder to the burn list. Forgot that the mac copies over an invisible resource file too if you do it that way. Don't know why it would do that on a Win-PC though.
 
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