Looking for alarm recommendations for a property..

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Ducklakeview

Elite
 Merseyside
I know we have a few alarm installers on here, so thought I'd ask..

In the shop, I have a hard wired Optima, which is bells only, plus an autodialler.

Installed it myself 5 years ago, and haven't had a single problem or false alarm.

Anyway, just signed the lease on some new premises, and due to the size of it, was wondering if a wireless system may be less hassle?

I've seen the Yale ones in Costco, that come with a panel that has an inbuilt dialler, and come with a couple of PIR's and a couple of door contacts plus a bell box which pretty much covers what I need, but are they any good? Susceptible to interference/tampering? The property itself is withingn a secure, gated and fenced compound, but I like the belt and braces approach when it comes to security...

The premises will have full HD CCTV which will be viewable on my phone, same setup as the shop, so what's the consensus?

Happy to put a full hardwired system in, but looking to save some time as there are 1001 other things to be getting on with there..

Mike
 
Hello Mike,

I installed a Yale Easy Fit Telecommuting system in my house over 2 years ago and been very happy with it. Bought an extra PIR and some door contacts, plus a smoke detector. Also some key fobs to make setting and disabling the alarm easy without having to use the panel. Works a treat, no bother with it at all. The system tells you when any batteries need changing. Impressed with the flexibility of programming various zones etc. Really great value for money I think.

Bob
 
Hello Mike, We have a Yale wireless alarm, fitted over ten years ago and it still works well, fitted several extra proximity switches and pirs. I did drop one of the door proximity switches and it broke, but easy to fit a replacement and code in. Only issue I have is that last year we had two families of swifts take up residence under the eaves, one of the nests actually sits on the external alarm and the little buggers sometimes set it off when they land, obviously the tamper setting is fairly easy to set off. If there is any chance of swifts in your area, suggest mounting the external alarm say two feet down from the soffit, that way, unless you have giant swifts, the nest would be clear of the alarm.
 
Prefer hard wired for various reasons,but wireless kits do serve a purpose.(Downsides are ability t block wireless signals,and render it useless).

As for wired kits,ADE/Honeywell(as per your Optima would be),and Texecom are what I use,the Latter for more advanced sensors,speech diallers etc,and bigger systems,the former for small houses/more basic systems,combined with Texecom pirs :thumbsup:
Personal preference :D
 
Mike,
The Yale and pre packaged kits are for the Domestic and DIY market. Afterall, whilst B&Q, etc sell them, you'll notice they don't use them to protect their own stores...
I would suggest that you look at the Texecom Premier Range, offering from 8 zones up to 48 with the use of 8 zone expander units. These Expanders can be hardwired or wireless allowing you to have both sorts of PIR's on the system. The also have have a rikochet range of wireless PIR's which reflect off each other so the PIR at the furthest point from the Control panel uses all of those on the way back to boost and repeat it's signal.

These panels also offer every sort of Communications option from auto dialler/text to digi, GSM and IP methods.

I've fitted these and have full remote control software (Wintex) that allows me to program set, reset and diagnose and issues, remotely from anywhere. :thumbsup:

Alan
 
Number5 said:
Mike,
The Yale and pre packaged kits are for the Domestic and DIY market. Afterall, whilst B&Q, etc sell them, you'll notice they don't use them to protect their own stores...
I would suggest that you look at the Texecom Premier Range, offering from 8 zones up to 48 with the use of 8 zone expander units. These Expanders can be hardwired or wireless allowing you to have both sorts of PIR's on the system. The also have have a rikochet range of wireless PIR's which reflect off each other so the PIR at the furthest point from the Control panel uses all of those on the way back to boost and repeat it's signal.

These panels also offer every sort of Communications option from auto dialler/text to digi, GSM and IP methods.

I've fitted these and have full remote control software (Wintex) that allows me to program set, reset and diagnose and issues, remotely from anywhere. :thumbsup:

Alan
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Exactly what I use,Allan.
Used Texecom stuff for years,good kit.
 
Number5 said:
Mike,
The Yale and pre packaged kits are for the Domestic and DIY market. Afterall, whilst B&Q, etc sell them, you'll notice they don't use them to protect their own stores...
I would suggest that you look at the Texecom Premier Range, offering from 8 zones up to 48 with the use of 8 zone expander units. These Expanders can be hardwired or wireless allowing you to have both sorts of PIR's on the system. The also have have a rikochet range of wireless PIR's which reflect off each other so the PIR at the furthest point from the Control panel uses all of those on the way back to boost and repeat it's signal.

These panels also offer every sort of Communications option from auto dialler/text to digi, GSM and IP methods.

I've fitted these and have full remote control software (Wintex) that allows me to program set, reset and diagnose and issues, remotely from anywhere. :thumbsup:

Alan
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:thumbsup:

TBH Alan, I've decided to hardwire it, just ordered a mid range Texecom panel with remote KP, one more thing to add to the list of "to-do's" lol.

Mike
 
Boerboel dog, burglars might get in but nobody is leaving, and very family orientated :D
 
sticky said:
Boerboel dog, burglars might get in but nobody is leaving, and very family orientated :D
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My friend and neighbour had one that was crossed with an Akita - She was HUGE, with a horrendously ferocious bark, but soft as a puppy with the kids, here she is on our drive with my AJ..

Sadly she died last year.

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Mike
 
I was given a Boerboel by a mate to look after while he did time 25 years ago I had no clue I just thought it was a BIG Rotweiler then it grew and grew. Our local postie recognised it. Wish I had the space for a couple, really caring dogs, just scary to others
 
Just bought the Yale one myself

Smart home view and control kit.

Great piece of kit and super easy to install. Easy to add to a smart home set up with cameras and all controled via Alexa or google home.

If it detects a wireless blocker it will automatically set the alarm off.

The main thing for me after being burgled last year is it just letting you know somethings going on so you can call the police and take action quickly.

An alarm on its own is pointless as to most people it’s an inconvieneince and anoying and they won’t do anything about it.
 
sticky said:
I was given a Boerboel by a mate to look after while he did time 25 years ago I had no clue I just thought it was a BIG Rotweiler then it grew and grew. Our local postie recognised it. Wish I had the space for a couple, really caring dogs, just scary to others
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Well after our last dog, a Choc Lab who we'd had since she was 8 weeks old died in Oct 2016, I swore we'd never have another.. Fast forward 18 months, and we now have a beautiful Rottweiler who would kill anyone that tried to harm the kids, a crazy Husky, and a mad Shar Pei.Springer cross who was 8 weeks old when we rescued him, all of them are rescue dogs.. God help anyone who gets into our home uninvited..

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And my youngest son Jonah thinking he's one of the pack..


Mike
 
tomscott said:
Just bought the Yale one myself

Smart home view and control kit.

Great piece of kit and super easy to install. Easy to add to a smart home set up with cameras and all controled via Alexa or google home.

If it detects a wireless blocker it will automatically set the alarm off.

The main thing for me after being burgled last year is it just letting you know somethings going on so you can call the police and take action quickly.

An alarm on its own is pointless as to most people it’s an inconvieneince and anoying and they won’t do anything about it.
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Haven't been burgled but this is the system we've just installed too - added a couple of keyfobs so the keypad is not required day to day. Spent the afternoon on New years day installing it - piece of cake.

It's mrs gannet proof too :D
 
Ducklakeview said:
TBH Alan, I've decided to hardwire it, just ordered a mid range Texecom panel with remote KP, one more thing to add to the list of "to-do's" lol.

Mike
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I may be old fashioned but I still believe wired is best. You've got something you can put a Meter on and it also gives you the flexibility to use any12v PIR sensor allowing you to best suit the environment.
 
One question on the wifi based alarms with a router plugged in to a network port - if the wifi drops out (or for example if the main breaker is turned off in the house), how does it function?
 
ph001 said:
One question on the wifi based alarms with a router plugged in to a network port - if the wifi drops out (or for example if the main breaker is turned off in the house), how does it function?
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It only needs the wifi router for internet access to send you notifications. The wireless systems all have back up batteries built in and the sensors etc are connected to the security hub via a wifi signal not the internet itself. So if the power goes down it will power itself and will go off if an intruder is detected but you wont get a notification.

The other option is to have the alarm base station/wifi router attached to a small UPS and the telephone line itself has power so if the mains power should go out in your area you will still have internet and it will still send notification and you wont be relying on a battery inside the security hub.

Ideally wired is best, but at the cost of some of these systems its a nice option for you to be able to take it with you. At the end of the day an alarm wont stop a burglary it will deter it. The main thing is it letting you know there is an intrusion.

After our house was burgled and I caught them in the act and ended up getting assaulted was a really nasty experience and it really effects you mentally. I did a lot of research of the best ways to not really secure your property but what goes through a burglars mind and how to deter those actions.

Apparently most will test your presence by ringing the bell to see if anyone is home, if they are they pretend to sell services/products etc if there is no answer they try the door.

So to adding a product like a ring doorbell or some kind of camera at the front of the house is a much better deterant as it will defect movement within a certain zone you set and send you a notification and give you a video feed. The alarm adds another level of complexity for a burglar to get around. It also means the burglar would look much more suspicious walking around with a balaclava before a trying the door so the likelihood is you will capture their face before they get to the front door.
 
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