Just pulled out 7.5 litres!

[Chris_D]

So I just did my regular 7.5k miles oil service and pulled 7.5 litres of the treacly goo using the trusty Pela pump and using two 5litre bottles to deposit it in.

I always check the level (warm) prior to sucking it out and it showed high but not over-filled.
I always pull at the end of the day and go back the following morning for the 1/2 litre or so of dregs that make it down to the sump overnight. Then re-fill with lovely fresh 5w30 nectar of course.

This may, pending what's found tomorrow morning, bring the grand total to 8 litres sucked out?

Surely shum mishtake Miss Moneypenny??
:|

 

[road warrior]

can i ask why you suck it out rather than drain ?

 

[Chris_D]

can i ask why you suck it out rather than drain ?

U get more out.
It's easier than jacking up and faffing about underneath at the sump.
It's safer. No risk of warm oil going up ur sleeve, in ur eye, on the floor :lol:
I could go on... 8)

 

[MACK]

can i ask why you suck it out rather than drain ?

U get more out.
It's easier than jacking up and faffing about underneath at the sump.
It's safer. No risk of warm oil going up ur sleeve, in ur eye, on the floor :lol:
I could go on... 8)

Do you ever use an engine flush?

 

[Chris_D]

can i ask why you suck it out rather than drain ?

U get more out.
It's easier than jacking up and faffing about underneath at the sump.
It's safer. No risk of warm oil going up ur sleeve, in ur eye, on the floor :lol:
I could go on... 8)

Do you ever use an engine flush?

I'm not experiencing anything to warrant a flush tbh, even at 130k miles.
A previous 6 cyl beemer I had was over 250k miles and didn't see any need there either.
If it aint broke, don't fix it!
:wink:

 

[MACK]

U get more out.
It's easier than jacking up and faffing about underneath at the sump.
It's safer. No risk of warm oil going up ur sleeve, in ur eye, on the floor :lol:
I could go on... 8)

Do you ever use an engine flush?

I'm not experiencing anything to warrant a flush tbh, even at 130k miles.
A previous 6 cyl beemer I had was over 250k miles and didn't see any need there either.
If it aint broke, don't fix it!
:wink:

They are quite marmite engine flushes.
Some engines dont seem to need them, some desperately do. Ford 1.6TDCI springs to mind

 

[Chris_D]

Do you ever use an engine flush?

I'm not experiencing anything to warrant a flush tbh, even at 130k miles.
A previous 6 cyl beemer I had was over 250k miles and didn't see any need there either.
If it aint broke, don't fix it!
:wink:

They are quite marmite engine flushes.
Some engines dont seem to need them, some desperately do. Ford 1.6TDCI springs to mind

Agreed, although I would suggest a more scientific diagnostic approach to establishing the health of ur engine, such as oil analysis, cylinder inspection etc is more beneficial than speculatively flushing the engine.

What's really mystifying me though is the surplus 1 litre+ of oil I managed to suck out yesterday and this morning. Last dregs this morning yielded about 200ml! So just over 7.5l. Weird. Refilled today with 6.5l exactly and level is smack bang in the middle of the marker.

Photo of total yield below.

 

[srhutch]

can i ask why you suck it out rather than drain ?

U get more out.
It's easier than jacking up and faffing about underneath at the sump.
It's safer. No risk of warm oil going up ur sleeve, in ur eye, on the floor :lol:
I could go on... 8)

You can’t get more out through sucking.

 

[Chris_D]

can i ask why you suck it out rather than drain ?

U get more out.
It's easier than jacking up and faffing about underneath at the sump.
It's safer. No risk of warm oil going up ur sleeve, in ur eye, on the floor :lol:
I could go on... 8)

You can’t get more out through sucking.

Sorry to contradict. But you can. It's the primary reason I do it this way now. 7.5l much? See photo above.

 

[biojo]

When you extract the oil, how long of a period is that over, as obvs when coming out of sump u`d do it till it drips.

Wouldnt more drain to bottom if he`s done this over 2 days, still wouldnt expect much more.

Are you sure on you last refill you didnt buy 5 ltr bottles? I know first service i had done the garage used what he thought was 6.5ltr, but thought the bottles where 5ltr when they was 4ltr, so few days after service it was on min, wasnt untill i checked oil i had left i worked out why

 

[GuidoK]

I dont know if you really can get out much more with suction. I dont think it makes much of a difference tbh.
When I do an oil change I also get out 7L or more (depending on the dipstick level :wink: ) , and I have removed my sump twice now, obviously after draining it through the drain plug, and it was pretty empty both times (less than 100ml residue I think). I think thats a pretty good test.
But I drain the oil on a car lift, so the car is 100% level. When jacked up it will surely differ.

But for sure using suction eliminates the risk of stripping the threads in the aluminium sump and is way easier.

The amount of oil you get out pretty much varies with things like how much the oil filter housing is drained etc (and of course how much was in there to begin with :lol: )

Which extractor do you use?

 

[Jl-c]

Go on then, which vacuum pump do I need for my 3.0si? :evil:

 

[Chris_D]

I dont know if you really can get out much more with suction..... (less than 100ml residue I think).

Which extractor do you use?

It's exactly that marginal difference of 100ml which panders to my OCD though! :lol: and maybe sucking takes some of the cruddy, nasty, non-magnetic goo that collects in the very nether regions of the sump that ordinarily might be trapped when draining through the sump hole..

I use a Pela pump

 

[Chris_D]

Go on then, which vacuum pump do I need for my 3.0si? :evil:

Good luck with that dipstickless boy! :lol:

 

[MACK]

I'm not experiencing anything to warrant a flush tbh, even at 130k miles.
A previous 6 cyl beemer I had was over 250k miles and didn't see any need there either.
If it aint broke, don't fix it!
:wink:

They are quite marmite engine flushes.
Some engines dont seem to need them, some desperately do. Ford 1.6TDCI springs to mind

Agreed, although I would suggest a more scientific diagnostic approach to establishing the health of ur engine, such as oil analysis, cylinder inspection etc is more beneficial than speculatively flushing the engine.

What's really mystifying me though is the surplus 1 litre+ of oil I managed to suck out yesterday and this morning. Last dregs this morning yielded about 200ml! So just over 7.5l. Weird. Refilled today with 6.5l exactly and level is smack bang in the middle of the marker.

Photo of total yield below.
IMG_20190105_161635.jpg

Daft as it sounds but did you definitely get all the oil out on the change prior to this? I take it the oil that came out didn't smell overly fuelly.(if that makes sense! ). Or was the oil still quite hot when you sucked it out?
I can't really help on the pump vs sump debate. Mines always drained level on a garage lift/ramp and its just left till the last trickle comes out of the sump and then a few minutes for good measure. I dont really specifically measure how much usually

 

[Jl-c]

If you do short journeys and it doesn't get fully hot then there will be quite a bit of water there, especially this time of year. In the Porsche it can be up to a litre or so Which is why , if you take it for a thrash it appears to have used a lot of oil, except it hasn't, it has just boiled off the water :?

 

[Number5]

I bought a Zed off a guy who said it drank a bit of oil, so I thought I'd change it fairly quick and see what was happening. I sucked out 12.5L. When I rang him to discuss he said he topped it up when ever the yellow light oil came on. When talking further I discovered he was mistaking the EML light for the Oil light. (The EML code was due to a split air hose).

Once sorted the car ran fine for months before I sold it. (Not to anyone on here I may add)

 

[buzyg]

Who put the last oil in and had you topped up since. Ye canee bend the laws of physics captain. :wink:

 

[buzyg]

I bought a Zed off a guy who said it drank a bit of oil, so I thought I'd change it fairly quick and see what was happening. I sucked out 12.5L. When I rang him to discuss he said he topped it up when ever the yellow light oil came on. When talking further I discovered he was mistaking the EML light for the Oil light. (The EML code was due to a split air hose).

Once sorted the car ran fine for months before I sold it. (Not to anyone on here I may add)

smokin

 

[kis]

can i ask why you suck it out rather than drain ?

U get more out.
It's easier than jacking up and faffing about underneath at the sump.
It's safer. No risk of warm oil going up ur sleeve, in ur eye, on the floor :lol:
I could go on... 8)

You can’t get more out through sucking.

You clearly haven’t had someone service you properly, if you catch my drift :wink: