July 7th speed limiters

[ori]

So it looks like all cars must have the speed limit system on all new cars from July 7th.

What does that actually mean? Is it the same as what I have now that it warns you when you go over the speed limit or is it actually going to do what they threatened which is slow you down by reducing power.

I do know that at the moment you will be able to switch the system off, but it will reset every time you switch off the car. So on modern cars that probably means going through 15 menus on the touch screen to switch it off.

I can see bimmercode sales spiking to code this “feature” out.

 

[Roberltd2]

Up until a few weeks ago I was living in a 3/4/5G blind spot. Then all of a sudden we've got mobile phone reception. The naiive me says thank you very much telecom people for sorting this out, whereas conspiracy theory me says this is all part of greater plan to be able to control the speed of cars (for example) at some point in the future...

 

[pvr]

Well, it can’t use the 4G/5G network for sure as that has massive holes, even made worse by the ending of 3G which was the only service available in large areas.

What I have read is just another tick box you have to override, when driving the EV it becomes already a massive effort to move. First got to sign in so that it assigns my profile to the car settings, than manually override that sodding lane departure feature that fights your steering wheel on country roads. It will be another one of those.

 

[TitanTim]

Think all new cars now are required to have the speed awareness so you get a nice warning when doing 31mph in a 30. It was the first thing I asked the salesman to turn off on the i20N and thankfully it stays off. I know on some makes you have to turn it off each time. Think this is different to actual speed limiters which I can't see being a reality, think of all the speeding fines revenue being lost :lol:

Tim.

 

[MikeyH]

I’m so glad I don’t buy new cars, just nice reliable old ones.

 

[Mr Tidy]

So am I!

While they do both have 155mph limiters I believe the limiter only applies in 6th and they can easily get past that in 5th - on the IOM or a German Autobahn obviously.

 

[MikeyH]

Obviously :wink:

 

[buzyg]

So lucky to be old and to have enjoyed all the freedoms we had before the tech of the nanny state. When will the youngsters say enough is enough. I remember disabling the ABS on my Mondeo, as it was crap. It's probably much better than me these days, in most situations, but I would still happily switch the lot off

 

[MikeyH]

I think it’s more than a nanny state buzyg, it’s more like they are taking away as much freedom as they can little by little until they have assimilated us into one massive hive of non thinking drones

 

[ori]

It’s definitely just a start. The EU even said that initially they will allow you to turn off the system. That indicates that the long term plan is that it won’t allow you to disable it.

I’ve been reading more into it.
Apparently it depends what levels it’s implemented. It will make the accelerator pedal heavier to stop you speeding. It will also flash the warning and then it will reduce the power to slow you down.

It uses GPS and cameras to determine the speed limit. Mine is accurate most of the time, but occasionally does get it wrong.

 

[Nanu]

I can see eventually there will be some device in the car and another in the speed limit sign. The car will then automatically be restricted to the speed limit. Thankfully it will not be in my lifetime but it will come. The G29 already recognises the speed limit which is displayed on the dash as you enter the new limit. It won't take much to adapt that system.

Look out for the trials being implemented in London or Wales first.

 

[Nictrix]

There was talk of this years ago on bikes and it was deemed dangerous.
You could be overtaking something and need to get past quick and the limiter kicks in stopping you from going any faster.
My car has a speed limit button that can be set at any speed. Really useful on motorways when your speed can climb without you realising.

 

[BMWZ4MC]

I'm not sure how this will work with cars marketed globally. Australia has enormous expanses of nothingness with few speed limit signs and often not much mobile signal. Any hard limiters dependent on these would be unusable and would have to be disabled. In reality, roadside speed cameras or the combat-boot wearing, gun-toting local cop are the only means of enforcing the limits.
Perhaps, in the next few years, there will be a business opportunity importing unrestrained Australian models to the UK... Now, where are PVR or Pondy to add a "nudge-nudge, wink-wink" to that idea :lol:

 

[Pondrew]

In the UK it will be all bollox TBH.

The legislation will be for all new cars to 'have' speed limiters. All new cars with cruise control have that already. The manufacturers are always way ahead of Gov legislation. It isn't news, it is click bait and scaremongering as are so many stories these days.

Don't worry people, the UK Gov can't organise a piss up in a brewery, so the semi-automatic car controlled by GPS is not an issue we need to fret about any time soon. For one thing, it will need to be driven by speed limit recognition, which needs actual speed limit signs to read. Those will all need to be replaced; costing the Gov billions (as they are few and far between and those that are concreted into the ground are usually too filthy for the camera to read).

 

[dr_john]

I have endured the existing alarms, only lane departure really pisses me off as it attempts to enforce some sort of control, which is easily overcome by just ignoring it.

According to my dealer, the speed limit limiter is similar, just stick yer foot down and away it goes! Time will tell.

 

[Argyll Andy]

I have endured the existing alarms, only lane departure really pisses me off as it attempts to enforce some sort of control, which is easily overcome by just ignoring it.

According to my dealer, the speed limit limiter is similar, just stick yer foot down and away it goes! Time will tell.

You can permanently switch lane assist/departure off

 

[BMWZ4MC]

I have endured the existing alarms, only lane departure really pisses me off as it attempts to enforce some sort of control, which is easily overcome by just ignoring it.

According to my dealer, the speed limit limiter is similar, just stick yer foot down and away it goes! Time will tell.

You can permanently switch lane assist/departure off

Indeed - I switched it off in our family car the day we bought it and haven’t touched the switch since

 

[pvr]

On the VW you have to switch it off each time, real pain. Risk of coding it out is that is you have an accident that they invalidate the claim as you interfered with the safety system.

It has become part of the startup procedure now (as you have to log in as well)

 

[BMWZ4MC]

We’ve had it a few years now, so perhaps the regulations have become more strict of late.

 

[jenniferlouise]

Up until a few weeks ago I was living in a 3/4/5G blind spot. Then all of a sudden we've got mobile phone reception.

Some years back EE were awarded a national contract to provide the emergency services network. This would be a priority signal over their existing system, so as they boosted their connectivity in poorer signal areas you’d definitely notice the difference. That said, I retired 3 years ago and as far as I’m aware it’s not been turned ‘on’ in its full capacity yet. Happy for someone still serving to correct me. What else it could be capable of is far above (what used to be) my pay grade. A