Jimmy Savile

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Carol M

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Being alleged today he abused kids in Stoke Mandeville hospital. One child had brain damage and the others were recovering from spinal operations. The nurses apparently used to tell the kids to stay in bed and pretend to be asleep when he was around.
It just gets worse and even though he isn't here to answer these allegations the evidence against him is pretty damning.
Makes you sick to the stomach.
 
Hopefully this will result in criminal charges being brought against his many showbiz and political friends who were part of the same group and who are still alive to face the consequences.
 
Adamski said:
Not sure what to think of all this. The man is dead.... can't stand trial
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I feel exactly the same.

Either these people are all after a payday coming out of the woodwork now OR (more likely) there has been a monumental cover-up in the police and the showbiz world to rival the scandal in the Catholic church.
 
Adamski said:
Not sure what to think of all this. The man is dead.... can't stand trial
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I know, that's the problem. He can't answer back.
There is a clip of Louis Theroux asking him about it, which he denied of course then a few years later an audio of him saying he'd never heard in his life of the accusations of child abuse when he obviously had.

There's too much stacked up evidence it does seem he is guilty as charged.
 
It's all a bit late isn't it, whether the allegations are true or false, however it certainly seems like trial by the press at the moment So as stated previously let the police focus their attention on the living accomplices.
 
I was wondering why nobody was talking about this on here.

A spokesman for the Police labelled him a "predatory sex offender" and stated that so far there had been more than 100 allegations against him. They must have some pretty conclusive evidence to be waving that label about. I think the fact his family removed his headstone also speaks volumes. It almost feels like they have been waiting for the s**t to hit the fan.

My feeling is that I don't think it really matters that he's dead. If it was the other way round and someone had been accused of a crime they hadn't committed then evidence proving their innocence emerged after their death you would have to say it was only just that their memory wasn't tarnished.

The thing I don't get is how all these victims were so afraid to come forward due to his power and influence. He was Jimi Saville FFS, not Stalin. The whole thing failed to take me by surprise if I'm honest. I'm an antisocial, pessimistic bastard by nature and I think all celebs who are never really known to have a relationship are a bit suspicious. Saville has always been on my "dodgy character" list.
 
Jeremy Vine was on the radio the other day giving Ester Ransen hassle cos apparently she heard rumors of this when it was happening but didn't do anything.

Her excuse being that it was just rumors, no proof. But if someone like her said nothing at the time, then its no surprise he could get away with it.

Being accused of being a peado is probably the worst thing to happen to someone, cos even if your proven innocent, it still sticks to you.

Take Michael Jackson....now, only he and the kids accusing him knew what happened, and guilty or not, it screwed his career up.

I do wonder why these people only came out of the woodwork now though?
 
sars said:
however it certainly seems like trial by the press at the moment
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That bit certainly is true. Can't help but think that there's no smoke without fire, but that as mentioned above there's some fakes crawling out from under the woodwork for their compensation.

It's a bit like the Lance Armstrong stories also going on in the press today :- as a people we love to find the chink in the armour of a famous/successful person, and hell if we can bring them down to lower than us or destroy them completely even better. There's no way I'll defend Saville because I have no idea what really happened, but I wonder how many of the press hacks so eager to destroy him have as much as given a donation to a charity during their lives let alone their own time. Even if it was a guilty conscience at least Saville did that.
I hope for the victim's sakes that it's being blown out of proportion and that they haven't suffered something that nobody ever should.
 
Makes you wonder if he did all his charity work partly out of guilt.
Even if he only molested one child, that's enough to label him.
Esther Rantzen cried when she had the video played to her of the women telling what happened.
 
Hope this doesn't offend but thought you'd appreciate it.....

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Seriously, 'hope this doesn't offend' start out trying create another blog on the back of the latest news item and descend into this CRASS comment. I take it you have no children?
 
biggiz_40 said:
Seriously, 'hope this doesn't offend' start out trying create another blog on the back of the latest news item and descend into this CRASS comment. I take it you have no children?
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Yes I have actually.
I'm sorry it's offended you. I put it on as its an 'unmasking the villain thing' absolutely not to poke fun at any kids being abused.
If it was that sort of thing I most definitely wouldn't have put it on here.
 
micz4 said:
I thought it was one of your funnier posts Carol :oops:
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There's no way I would have put anything taking the piss out of what he has done, no way.
The 'joke' is about him being found out, not about his crime and certainly not about the children.
Jokes on him, shame he's dead to not answer for himself.
 
what has happened to the victims is truly horrible.

however, why has it taken so long for the victims to come forward? there have been plenty of other instances in the news where abuse that happened years ago was reported, investigated and the perpetrator has been brought to justice. why wait until savile is dead before saying something?

because he was never convicted of anything, all the authorities can do is record what the victims have told them. it may be possible to investigate the allegations to make sure that dates, places, people tie up but I can't see it going any further than that. if there are other living people involved, then maybe the investigation can go down that route as well.

he could be stripped of his knighthood but it won't exactly achieve much apart from it being token recognition that maybe savile had been a bit naughty.

i hope the media hype on this starts to calm down so that the victims can get on with their lives and dealing with the stress and trauma that they have been through. maybe getting it in the paper will help them briefly but if it keeps coming up day after day after day, i'm not so sure.

as for the other celebrities that are getting a bit worried about being tarred with the same brush. well, it's quite simple, if you've not done anything - what have you got to hide?
 
Carol, I agree it sounds horrible. But... Something about this whole thing stinks.

People are coming out of the woodwork after 30 years, the Met Police have already found him guilty and as for the press; well judge, jury and executioner.
There is no doubt that he was a strange guy, watch the Louis Theroux documentary where he meets him. But the fact remains, the guys dead, he can't defend himself and no one is going to face charges. Just feels like a mob baying for blood.
If guilty then I'm sure we all will be shocked, but the way new stories emerge stinks. Maybe people have known and it's been kept quiet, even his family have removed and destroyed his headstone, why not just keep it in storage until the whole thing is proven or not.
 
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