Jaguar "Evoque" on it's way?
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ZermattV said:
Yes but the Panamera is Porsche's best selling model.
original guvnor said:
Doesn't look like it...
the fiscal year 2012, Porsche produced a total of 151,999 vehicles, 18.9 percent up on the comparable prior-year period. 28,419 units of the 911 model series and 12,365 units of the Boxster series rolled off the line at the main plant in Stuttgart-Zuffenhausen. Following the start of pro- duction of the Boxster model series at Volkswagen Osnabrück GmbH on 19 September 2012, 2,143 units were assembled there in the reporting year. In Leipzig, 83,208 new Cayennes left the assembly hall in the past fiscal year. 27,056 Panameras were produced there. To enable an increase in production on this scale, Porsche introduced a third shift in Leipzig in January 2012. In Stuttgart- Zuffenhausen, vehicles were produced on several Saturday’s in the fiscal year.
Source 2012 Porsche Annual Report
Ah ok, my mistake. I knew it outsold 911's but jeez that's a lot of Cayennes 
Link to the autoblog article :
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/01/jaguar-c-x17-concept-teased-before-frankfurt/
http://www.autoblog.com/2013/09/01/jaguar-c-x17-concept-teased-before-frankfurt/
It is possible that the roadster market gets as niche as the motorbike market where hardly anyone buys them as their main mode of transport, more weekend toy.
Problem with that is when the car manufacturers figure that out as they wont be big sellers and the people that do buy them will tend to keep them rather than trade up every few years. Look on this forum for instance! The ratio of those that have bought a new model Z4 to the ones that own the first gen. Models could get dropped!
There is also a strong rumor of a 300 BHP (petrol) Evoque RS coming out next year (with a RR Sport RS to follow, only god knows why as the standard V8 has over 500 BHP!!).
Problem with that is when the car manufacturers figure that out as they wont be big sellers and the people that do buy them will tend to keep them rather than trade up every few years. Look on this forum for instance! The ratio of those that have bought a new model Z4 to the ones that own the first gen. Models could get dropped!
There is also a strong rumor of a 300 BHP (petrol) Evoque RS coming out next year (with a RR Sport RS to follow, only god knows why as the standard V8 has over 500 BHP!!).
I can believe it Zermatt. I saw loads of Cayennes and Panameras in Moscow but hardly any 911's.
All of this is just cyclical. There is room for both. Car companies have long lead-ins for new models and what you are seeing now is a reaction 3 to 5 years ago when the global economy went backwards. A lot of the 4x4 trend has been because of harsher economic times and cars needing to be jacks-of-all-trades rather than having a weekend toy, as well as those models being popular in emerging markets. I think the economic outlook is improving now though, so withdrawing roadster models may be short-sighted. The demographic trend towards more single households also won't harm the long term outlook for Roadster type cars either.
That is true but it could still shape the future market when people start to realise these new style "Tesco trollies" actually drive quite well. :wink:
I'd be interested to see how sales of the F Type is going. I live near a Jaguar dealership and I've only seen a few F Types on the road, and 2 of those have been the demo cars.
I'd be interested to see how sales of the F Type is going. I live near a Jaguar dealership and I've only seen a few F Types on the road, and 2 of those have been the demo cars.
:? I think they are fantastic cars but there is no way I would pay more than the price of an E89 for the V6 version!