Pondrew said:
In my house at times beans and toast was classed as a two course meal But I do agree it will have risen by the time I’m due to pay £165 :thumbsdown:
Ive paid my VED
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In my house at times beans and toast was classed as a two course meal But I do agree it will have risen by the time I’m due to pay £165 :thumbsdown:
Pondrew said:Then £485 for the next four, then £165 but in five years you can guarantee it will have gone up to around the £500 mark again.Argyll Andy said:
It's your own fault for being rich and buying expensive cars (official Government thinking that).
Same attitude with stamp duty and God help you if you are wealthy enough to buy a second property.
I used to be under the misguided impression that Conservative Governments ideals were 'you work hard you reap the benefits'.
Ideals are one thing. Worldwide pandemics and war are another. Someone has to pay the cost and it's you and I. Life is good.
North West Surrey
Nanu said:
Nanu said:
To quote my self from earlier in the thread.
"There is plenty of logic behind it. You are just looking from the wrong perspective. The logic is along the lines of,. How much do gov need to raise from road tax over the next 12 months. Then adjust scales accordingly. :wink:"
A bit like A level results. It's about the numbers. Nothing much to do with the Environment or Education for that matter. :wink:
I am contemplating one as a company car, currently and with lots doing more than 300 miles now , even when cold and the BIK being peanuts , resale being great ( means I might get a more expensive car, as my boss buys his cars not leases , thanks boss !!) I think as a rule of thumb is a no brainer. Look today in the news and diesel running out because of those hypocritical tree huggers , who travelled there in cars , wearing their leathers and far eastern clothing. At least, I can use my MD's supercharger at work , which he has for his Audi Etron , which is a monster machine, for free power.Mr Tidy said:
This then plays into being a 'bit more green, by virtue of the green flash on the number plate, even though through its lifetime is more CO2 in manufacture, running ( think of weight and brakes and tyre wear) and disposal than my Zed . Plus I wont use my diesel car and then have more money for Z4 petrol and VED .................
Thrustyjust said:
Plus quite a bit of CO2 is created from our current methods of electricity generation!
But an EV certainly makes a lot of sense for your situation.
Whereas I'm retired so no BIK aspect and no free charging at work! And over the last 2 years my daily has been averaging less than 300 miles a month! To buy an EV I'd need to sell my Z4 and I couldn't afford to lease one and run an MC so it isn't going to happen!
At the summit of the picturesque fens
Last time I looked it used 11% coal!Mr Tidy said:
So for every 10 miles in an EV over a mile is using coal. Where are the 'green' credentials in that?
I BIK, tax breaks and so on are the over-ridng factors then we are completely fooked.
At least you know where you are with petrol.....it's terrible but also good. And for the foreseeable future it makes the world go around.
ronk said:Pondrew said:Then £485 for the next four, then £165 but in five years you can guarantee it will have gone up to around the £500 mark again.Argyll Andy said:
It's your own fault for being rich and buying expensive cars (official Government thinking that).
Same attitude with stamp duty and God help you if you are wealthy enough to buy a second property.
I used to be under the misguided impression that Conservative Governments ideals were 'you work hard you reap the benefits'.
It’s the same when they apply the rebates for energy costs. Band E and above get nothing. Have band E costs not gone up ? They certainly have and more !
Death and Taxes!
Don't start me on that one Ron, I can go into the local town and see terraced houses with brand new Audis on the drive and they get a rebate and I chose a better house and drive an older car but get nothing - basing the rebate on where you live is stupid as you can earn more than me but chose to live in a cheap house to have no mortgage so more disposable income
Plus I get jack for my £240 a month, rubbish collected and three street lights, I spend all last weekend repairing the road to the cottage as the council wont adopt it
You're lucky Sean. I am in band F and pay £285 a month and because our cul-de-sac is unadopted our street lights are fed from MY garage supply at MY cost. And because I live in a 'conservation area' if I want to trim some crappy old trees, I have to apply to the council for permission and they insist on a feckin registered arborist to do it.Ole gits rule said:
God I love this Country. :x
Pondrew said:
Pondrew said:
Mr Tidy said:
Something odd that makes down sizing from our current family home a pain, is that we would likely go up a band in council tax. :? :roll:
We have lived here a long time and extended the property. Those around us that have changed hands have had a band increase when sold.
Good old death and Taxes ahy. :wink:
There was about 15 years ago. A temp at work bought a new build a few streets down from us. Smaller than out place was, even when we originally bought it, yet a band higher. A right pretentious cow. She was clearly peeved, when I let slip ours was a lower band and told me she was going to get the council to re-band ours. I did worry for a time they might turn up but never happened. Maybe Mr star man will get us, if he ever gets in. :roll:pvr said:
All well and good revaluing the houses but all that means is everyone from band A is gaining to end up n band C.
If you revalue then you have to move the bands to maintain the status quo
If you revalue then you have to move the bands to maintain the status quo
Argyll Andy said:Mr Tidy said:buzyg said:
No, they just keep messing it up!
Any car registered before 1 March 2001 fell into one of two brackets - up to 1,549 or over 1,549cc like those Astons.
Then Road Tax was based on CO2 emissions with Band K, L and M at the top, but all paying the same.
Until Gordon Brown decided in 2009 to punish Bands L and M and retrospectively introduce higher rates to cars registered after 23 March 2006 - so virtually all Z4Ms.
Then effective from 1 April 2017 they came up with another idea and charged higher rates for the first 5 years, that were way higher if the car had a list price over £40K.
My sister bought a 2018 Fiat 500 Twin-air last year and has to pay £140 a year - if she had bought one registered before 1 April 2016 Road Tax would have been free.
Logic doesn't seem to feature anywhere!
First years tax on the M40i is about a grand
That's not bad,Andy....our Merc Gla 250 AMG 4matic isn't much cheaper than that. Good thing it's just lumped into the buying cost of circa £40k(the Merc)...or in reality,just added to the cost of the Monthly payments,lol
Yes,they know how to charge does the DVLA
Laziness by the local Councils. They realised that re-banding properties when they sell is easier and cheaper, as the market does all the work for them.pvr said:
It is still a lottery, depending on how diligent the Council is.
The banding criteria is also nonsense. I built a house and when signed off it was given a band E. I moved to a smaller house, which was £150,000 cheaper but had one more bedroom; band F. And yet 15 years ago I extended a house by 50% and gave it three extra bedrooms and two more bathrooms. Once signed off; no change. Go figure! :|