Is this Nappa or Oregon Leather?

[Cibbers]

This champagne leather is in a 3.0si Sport Coupe I'm going to see which I believe is an Individual spec leather. Firstly, is it definately Individual spec, and secondly is it Nappa or Oregon Leather?

I know the ///M's come with Nappa leather, but do the individual 3.0 coupe's have Nappa?

Cheers

Tom

EDIT:

Plus another question, all other BMW 'Sport" models have ///M logo's on the door sills and an ///M gearknob. Does anyone know why BMW decided not to do this with the 3.0si Sport Z4's? I understand that it's not an 'M' car, but neither is a 320d Sport....?

 

[georgie_no23]

answer to Q 1: Pretty sure it's Oregon

answer to Q2: Probably to make you buy the M sills as an extra, mine has them but only as an extra apparently...you can buy them for 65 quid each on BMW direct on ebay

 

[Gargybloke]

Plus another question, all other BMW 'Sport" models have ///M logo's on the door sills and an ///M gearknob. Does anyone know why BMW decided not to do this with the 3.0si Sport Z4's? I understand that it's not an 'M' car, but neither is a 320d Sport....?

Two wrongs don't make a right Tom. Can't really see the logic in putting //M on everything if its not. Its like putting a Turbo badge on the back of a Fiesta.

 

[Cibbers]

Plus another question, all other BMW 'Sport" models have ///M logo's on the door sills and an ///M gearknob. Does anyone know why BMW decided not to do this with the 3.0si Sport Z4's? I understand that it's not an 'M' car, but neither is a 320d Sport....?

Two wrongs don't make a right Tom. Can't really see the logic in putting //M on everything if its not. Its like putting a Turbo badge on the back of a Fiesta.

Unless it's a Fiesta RS Turbo?

No I know it still doesn't make it an 'M' car, I just wondered why BMW chose to do it on pretty much every other model in the range apart from the Z4. I'm not the type to put ///M badges on a non M car, it annoys me when I see cars around with it emblazoned everywhere, especially in the kidney grille! I've even seen a 5 Series sport with these fitted

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/05-09-BMW...CarParts_SM&hash=item4aa53ffe33#ht_4337wt_956

 

[mrlozzer]

I think the difference may be - 'Sport' and 'M Sport'.

My 545i SE 'Sport' is down as a 545i SE on the V5 and on the BMW spec sheet. It was fitted with the optional 'Sport' pack from new, being sport suspension, tiptronic auto box, MFSW. But, it didn't have M sill strips, an M steering wheel or any part of the M Sport bodykit. They weren't even offered as options... My wife's X3 3.0d M Sport on the other hand has all of the above and is noted as M Sport on the V5.

So, it looks to me like 'Sport' may be an option pack; 'M Sport' is a model in its own right.

 

[Adamski]

I'll ask the stoopid question then - what is difference between Nappa and Oregan?!


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[mrlozzer]

I'll ask the stoopid question then - what is difference between Nappa and Oregan?!

I think that Nappa leather is a softer grain of leather than either the Oregon or Dakota leather that BMW use in various models. But I could be wrong...

Just checked a bit more. Apparently Dakota leather is the toughest grade that BMW use. Not particularly soft, but hard-wearing which is why they put in into rep-spec 5ers and similar. Nappa tends to be for Individual-spec cars and Oregon for everything else. I still could be wrong though

 

[Adamski]

I have individual interior, must check whether its nappa

Edit - according to this link I have New England leather. Very confusing.

So does Nappa leather get tired more easily?

 

[Cibbers]

I'll ask the stoopid question then - what is difference between Nappa and Oregan?!

I think that Nappa leather is a softer grain of leather than either the Oregon or Dakota leather that BMW use in various models. But I could be wrong...

Just checked a bit more. Apparently Dakota leather is the toughest grade that BMW use. Not particularly soft, but hard-wearing which is why they put in into rep-spec 5ers and similar. Nappa tends to be for Individual-spec cars and Oregon for everything else. I still could be wrong though

That's what I thought, therefore with Champagne alledgedly being an individual spec leather one would assume it's Nappa rather than the standard spec Oregon?

 

[ab7]

I've got a 3.0 si coupe with Champagne Nappa leather.

It's an individual option, and as has been said it's a much softer leather.

When I was looking around at z4s, I saw a few with Champagne leather, I never came across Champagne spec leather that wasn't Nappa.

 

[srhutch]

The Z4 came in either "SE" or "Sport" spec post face lift and only "SE" pre facelift.

The only ///M badge on the Sport models in on the steering wheel, and I think MV2's if you have them. 108's don't.

 

[bcworkz]

No E85/6s have Dakota leather. Regular or extended leather interiors are Oregon or New England. New England seats have a longitudinal recessed inset down the middle of the main central seat bottom, for Oregon the same piece is solid across to the bolsters. Not sure how the grades might differ, both are names of US leather suppliers, so just may be a supplier difference.

M and individual interiors use Nappa leather, except for bi-colour seats, which use New England. Nappa is a specific type of tanning process that yields soft yet durable leather. I can confirm Champagne is a colour only used on Nappa leather.

I would be embarrassed to have M badging on a non-full-M car, no matter who put them there. Just screams "I'm a wannabe". It may fool most people, but for those to whom it really matters, they will know it's a lie. If we're really going to do this M sport thing, all badging should read "///M Sport" IMO.

 

[mrlozzer]

A couple of years back, a mate of mine had an E60 530d M Sport as a company car. It was an ex-demonstrator with just a handful of miles on it. The car was 'badge deleted' (on the options sheet) but had 'M' badges on the front grille and rear bootlid. Could only have been done at the factory or by the dealers... :wink: