Is it possible to get a 'good' Z4 for £5,000?

Hi all

I am new on here as whilst looking for my next sports car (having owned both mk1 and mk2 MX5's, an MR2 roadster and an MGTF160 as second cars) I was surprised to see early high mileage Z4's at or around my budget of £5,000.

Now, I was going to get a mk3 MX5 2.0 Sport, to complete the set of MX5's and the 2.0 Sport is a very nice drive, but the Z4 is clearly a step up in class, although it would mean an '03/'04 car with 100k miles, rather than an '05/'06 car with 50k for the MX5.

Is a £5,000 Z4 likely to be good buy? I know a £5,000 mk3 MX5 is, but the Z4 is, well a Z4! Obviously there will be good and bad examples out there, but how likely is a £5k car going to cost me another 1 or 2k in the two or three years I intend to keep it for? Money I would struggle to find.

Any advice much appreciated. And as a life long MX5 enthusiast you could see this as a challenge to convert me! :D

Vimes
 
Depends on age, spec and engine. Mine is 11 years old with 69k on it (full loaded) I would say mine is now around 6k money


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Hmmm tricky to answer. Mine is a 57 plate so much newer than you're looking at but at 78K in is closer to the mileage (slight plug but it's also for sale, little above your budget though :( ) . It hasn't missed a beat and continues to feel sweet as a nut. Absolutely bomb proof it seems. The 2.0s I've got no experience with but they don't sound quite so robust as the 3.0.
With good and regular service history, I wouldn't see too much of a bother at 100k miles. Likewise for age if it has been looked after.

GLWTS though and hope you find a nice one.
 
Yes , They have been sold on here for that sum & before buying my TT i almost jumped into a black 3.0 auto with 80k/good history on 108,s for just under £5k . 54 reg with a very good spec ,
So yes they are out there but you have to be prepared to watch , wait & travel
 
Mine is mechanically sound now!! But is a bit scruffy I brought it this way to tidy up. I paid 6k from a garage 17months ago I can't see why you couldn't if you bargain and pick the right one. Make me an offer ???????
 
My sister is trading her Z4 3.0 05 Silver...76k miles...in 6 weeks time.....she is getting £5k trade. You're welcome to have it....PM me
 
Just have a good read of the buying guide on here, you should have no problem finding a good car within your budget. I bought mine 18 months ago from a guy who wanted a quick sale. its a 53 plate 3.0 and has so far touch wood given me no problems and a great deal of fun.....
 
hi, i am thinking of selling you need to drive one and you will be hooked i think they are better than an mx5, but then i might be slightly bias

http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=63015

chris
 
ranski said:
Depends on age, spec and engine. Mine is 11 years old with 69k on it (full loaded) I would say mine is now around 6k money


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Dude.. With all the mods on your beauty of a Z4, I'm almost tempted to give you the £6K, - including the hard top, obviously 8)
 
Now then Captain. . .

Quite a difficult question. I came from a mark 2 MX5 and it was a brilliant car and much easier to drive and run than the Zed 3.0si I presently have - far more relaxing and convenient to jump in and 'nip to the shop' - something I still do in the Zed - but every journey is an event in the Zed. The 2.0 litre I had before this was an 'easier' drive but still was a 'step up' from the MX and felt very special.

In terms of costs the Zed isn't a great deal more expensive to insure though petrol costs are higher in the 3.0 litre. Tyres are more expensive in the sports 18 inch staggered option - have to spend over £100 to get adequate rubber. At the price level you're talking about, an independent specialist is a must for servicing - costs a fortune to have servicing and repairs done at the dealerships.

There are some weaknesses - roof motors can stop operating due to water and rusting of the motor (drain points need to be kept clear) - replacing this is expensive £6-700+ so finding a Zed where this has been replaced already can be an advantage. Regular maintenance (surprisingly long intervals) means that many Forum members feel that 100,000 miles is not a problem on a Zed.

There are some posts about checking a Zed before purchase which give lots of information about the Zeds and what to look out for at the beginning of the Forum.

I felt it was a big step up in moving to a Zed from an MX - I bought my first Zed because of it's looks and BMW quality and 'driving' image. I took two test drives and didn't like the way the Zed followed cambers and contours in the road - I also felt the ride was too hard and walked away. Then after another test drive I was concerned about the 2nd and 3rd gear differential (big drop in revs) so decided against it again. But - the looks still kept me interested and I could feel the potential in handling as against the MX so was still tempted - after making what I felt was a great p/x against a sports bike a went ahead and made the deal.

So you can see I had my reservations - the MX had been a purchase that was easy - a no brainer - I bought one because they are reliable and affordable and fun and I never thought much about the car except that I got in it every day and loved driving it - a wonderful fun car which I could rely upon and never gave me any problems in 6 years.

Owning a Zed is different - it becomes more demanding. It took me some time to get to know the Zed and exploit it's capabilities. It took time to get used to the suspension and ride - the steering and handling (I changed the tyres to non runflats - much better ride). The gear change is not as slick as the MX. It's a more 'serious' purchase. You have to start being concerned about tyres, brakes, brake fluid, steering geometry and tracking, as they are such a capable machine - that's why regular maintenance and history is important. A well cared for Zed is a delight, a serious purchase and very capable. It will give you a more intensive and purposeful experience - it feels a more 'heavy weight sports car' not in weight but in demands. It is a challenge to drive well and at speed but a wonderful experience. It can also be driven sedately and in a relaxed manner - but it's hard to refrain from dipping into it's true potential.

I could go on - but these are my views and experience coming from a similar starting point as yourself. There are many Forumites with far more experience and ownership knowledge than myself and I'm sure they'll have their say.

I'm loving my Zed ownership and I may return to a 2.0 litre one day and would have no hesitation in returning to another MX5 in the years ahead but for now my Zed ownership is very special and the pleasure of seeing that sportscar on the drive and the experiences it gives me when out on the road is worth the investment in commitment and cost. I think that's why this Forum is so active - that's another aspect of Zed ownership I particularly enjoy - getting out on a safe yet enjoyable run with like minded owners - come join us - you'll love it.

Take time deciding what Zed you want and be patient - there are lots for sale and many options and modifications which can be applied - make sure you invest in what you want and need. Keep asking questions on this Forum and go for it - with care you wont regret it - it is a special experience.

Hope this helps

:driving: :thumbsup:
 
woolybear said:
ranski said:
Depends on age, spec and engine. Mine is 11 years old with 69k on it (full loaded) I would say mine is now around 6k money


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Dude.. With all the mods on your beauty of a Z4, I'm almost tempted to give you the £6K, - including the hard top, obviously 8)

I still need to sort out the lights I promised you! Sorry just sorting a few things out, but I'll be grabbing that dremel at somepoint


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paulgs1000 said:
Now then Captain. . .

Quite a difficult question. I came from a mark 2 MX5 and it was a brilliant car and much easier to drive and run than the Zed 3.0si I presently have - far more relaxing and convenient to jump in and 'nip to the shop' - something I still do in the Zed - but every journey is an event in the Zed. The 2.0 litre I had before this was an 'easier' drive but still was a 'step up' from the MX and felt very special.

In terms of costs the Zed isn't a great deal more expensive to insure though petrol costs are higher in the 3.0 litre. Tyres are more expensive in the sports 18 inch staggered option - have to spend over £100 to get adequate rubber. At the price level you're talking about, an independent specialist is a must for servicing - costs a fortune to have servicing and repairs done at the dealerships.

There are some weaknesses - roof motors can stop operating due to water and rusting of the motor (drain points need to be kept clear) - replacing this is expensive £6-700+ so finding a Zed where this has been replaced already can be an advantage. Regular maintenance (surprisingly long intervals) means that many Forum members feel that 100,000 miles is not a problem on a Zed.

There are some posts about checking a Zed before purchase which give lots of information about the Zeds and what to look out for at the beginning of the Forum.

I felt it was a big step up in moving to a Zed from an MX - I bought my first Zed because of it's looks and BMW quality and 'driving' image. I took two test drives and didn't like the way the Zed followed cambers and contours in the road - I also felt the ride was too hard and walked away. Then after another test drive I was concerned about the 2nd and 3rd gear differential (big drop in revs) so decided against it again. But - the looks still kept me interested and I could feel the potential in handling as against the MX so was still tempted - after making what I felt was a great p/x against a sports bike a went ahead and made the deal.

So you can see I had my reservations - the MX had been a purchase that was easy - a no brainer - I bought one because they are reliable and affordable and fun and I never thought much about the car except that I got in it every day and loved driving it - a wonderful fun car which I could rely upon and never gave me any problems in 6 years.

Owning a Zed is different - it becomes more demanding. It took me some time to get to know the Zed and exploit it's capabilities. It took time to get used to the suspension and ride - the steering and handling (I changed the tyres to non runflats - much better ride). The gear change is not as slick as the MX. It's a more 'serious' purchase. You have to start being concerned about tyres, brakes, brake fluid, steering geometry and tracking, as they are such a capable machine - that's why regular maintenance and history is important. A well cared for Zed is a delight, a serious purchase and very capable. It will give you a more intensive and purposeful experience - it feels a more 'heavy weight sports car' not in weight but in demands. It is a challenge to drive well and at speed but a wonderful experience. It can also be driven sedately and in a relaxed manner - but it's hard to refrain from dipping into it's true potential.

I could go on - but these are my views and experience coming from a similar starting point as yourself. There are many Forumites with far more experience and ownership knowledge than myself and I'm sure they'll have their say.

I'm loving my Zed ownership and I may return to a 2.0 litre one day and would have no hesitation in returning to another MX5 in the years ahead but for now my Zed ownership is very special and the pleasure of seeing that sportscar on the drive and the experiences it gives me when out on the road is worth the investment in commitment and cost. I think that's why this Forum is so active - that's another aspect of Zed ownership I particularly enjoy - getting out on a safe yet enjoyable run with like minded owners - come join us - you'll love it.

Take time deciding what Zed you want and be patient - there are lots for sale and many options and modifications which can be applied - make sure you invest in what you want and need. Keep asking questions on this Forum and go for it - with care you wont regret it - it is a special experience.

Hope this helps

:driving: :thumbsup:

Great post, sums up Z4 ownership for me plus I'd mention the six-pot as, it's an exceptional engine that really adds something to the mix :thumbsup:
 
Thanks so much for all of the replays chaps. Particularly the informative essay from Paul!

Knowing there is such an active and helpful forum is another serious plus point to potential ownership.

I shall step up my search for the right car!

Vimes
 
Captain Vimes said:
Thanks so much for all of the replays chaps. Particularly the informative essay from Paul!

Knowing there is such an active and helpful forum is another serious plus point to potential ownership.

I shall step up my search for the right car!

Vimes

Have you driven one yet?? Where about in the world are you ?

This Forum is great, some of the others I am on are not as friendly :(
 
I sold my beautiful roadster, 53 plate, good spec, tastefully modified with 83k miles for £5,700.

There must be some nice examples for £5k


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Chris alderman said:
Captain Vimes said:
Thanks so much for all of the replays chaps. Particularly the informative essay from Paul!

Knowing there is such an active and helpful forum is another serious plus point to potential ownership.

I shall step up my search for the right car!

Vimes

Have you driven one yet?? Where about in the world are you ?

This Forum is great, some of the others I am on are not as friendly :(



Arranging a test drive is my first priority. Thought I might try the BMW main dealers in Doncaster or York for the test drive depending on what they have. Don't mind wasting their time a bit, but don't want to waste a genuine sellers time if it is not a car I might actually buy.

Of course if there is anyone near Howden in East Yorkshire who would let me have a spin in theirs I wont say no! (I am 45 and reasonably sensible....) :D

Vimes
 
Adamski said:
I sold my beautiful roadster, 53 plate, good spec, tastefully modified with 83k miles for £5,700.

There must be some nice examples for £5k


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Agree - mine is reasonably well equipped and on only 53k miles and I would hope to get around that if I was to sell. £5k to £6k range should easily get you a keeper. If you are willing to apply some tlc I'm sure there are plenty of sub £5k bargains out there.
 
Ewazix said:
Great post, sums up Z4 ownership for me plus I'd mention the six-pot as, it's an exceptional engine that really adds something to the mix :thumbsup:

Ewazix is right - the 2.0i Sport was my first Zed and the 4 pot engine is undervalued. It offers just enough real world performance to make it fun and of course has the handling. Working hard to make the most of the engine's potential was a delight and the 4 pot is extremely smooth and willing to rev.
However the 6 pot does indeed 'offer something very special to the mix'. I find mine can be shatteringly fast and it is a phenomenal overtaking tool. It is very smooth and makes a wonderful noise. This Zed is likely to be the pinnacle of my car ownership and I'm thrilled by it every time I take it out. I think this is perhaps the swan song of the large engined multi cylinder sports car as fuel costs continue to rise and it's something I am so pleased to be able to have . (although I would like to have the driving experience of M ownership I'm not sure I can justify the extra price and costs - we shall see. . .) What an engine to have in a sports car on the road - it is phenomenal!

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