Institute of Advanced Motorists ?

pvr said:
gannet said:
I know some of the observers in the Bristol group, and they are true petrol heads.

Can't believe they do 2 classroom sessions though :o Our group does about an hour, then a demo then you're on :driving:

TVR has his new car so he is ready for it now ... let me or him know when the next class / session is please 8)
you and tvr have mail ;)
 
i have done pursuit driving, skid pans, many bike advanced courses, and blue light driving, and the buzz words for roadcraft are

catch, match, dispatch

and wheels on tarmac

keep things simple and read the road and its conditions and you wont go wrong :thumbsup:
 
Interesting read. Could be interested in this. Do you get a free grille badge and flat cap when you pass?
 
GreyZed said:
Interesting read. Could be interested in this. Do you get a free grille badge and flat cap when you pass?
No, but you do get a free 56mph limiter fitted.

It's a bit like being taught to suck eggs for 85% of it, but the odd snippet of info is thought provoking and if nothing else, it's made me realise how bad other people are who've turned up for the course !

There's obviously those ( like me ) who enjoy driving and just want to be better, safer (and faster!) and there's those that turn up for an Advanced course as they've passed their standard test but still haven't a clue and think its the follow on from basic driving. You then realise they are on the road at the same time as you are !
 
About 2 months after starting this course, I'm pleased to say that this week I passed my test and am now a member of the Advanced Motorists.

The question is, Was it worthwhile ?

I'd like to consider myself as a reasonable, good observant driver and I only took about 10 weeks to pass the test fairly easily (Most take 6-9 months apparently), but as myself and the Zed boys like to crack on a bit on Sundays, I was also looking to pick up any other tips that may make just that little bit of difference between a near miss and a serious do-do one day. A lot of the course was common sense but there are a things that I did learn and without going into major detail, I'd list a few examples as:-

1) Not everyone is like you and me. There were people in that IAM Group who you wouldn't allow on a push bike, let alone in a car and these people have voluntarily put themselves up for 'Advanced Driving"? I'd guess they would think nothing of pulling out on you at 60mph just because they drive at everywhere at 20mph , so assume you must be too. Very worrying !

2) Observational Links
During my test I noticed and commented that everybodys Dustbins were out on the pavements and still full. Two bends later, in the middle of the road was a Bin Lorry. During one of the earlier drives, I spotted a Tractor pulling a Hay Trailer, so called the possibility of mud on the road soon. Instead as we rounded a 60mph bend, there was a huge branch lying across the road, brought down from an overhanging tree by the trailer being stacked higher than the average lorry. That visual link and being off the speed slightly, allowed me that extra second or two to stop safely, when I could have still been pushing on.

3) Road Positioning
Most of us take the 'racing line' around a bend when travelling on bit, especially on a left-hander (i.e. out wide, clip the apex and drift back out again), but taking a wide line all the way round it gives a far greater line of sight and also keeps the car more stable once set up for the bend. Moving out also makes you more visible earlier to any cars waiting to emerge from a junction on the left. It's small things but it all makes sense when you think about it in greater detail

4) Signs
We were hacking a long a nice country A road at 60(-ish!) when we came across one of these signs and the Observer asked me, if I would treat the sign any differently if it were the opposite way round ? I just said they are both staggered junction signs.
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He then pointed out that the first sign is far more dangerous to me than the second, on the basis that whilst I'm pressing on, another motorist looking to cross my path, could well pull out on me, then sit in the middle of the road, waiting for on-coming traffic to pass before being able to turn right again. Therefore, meaning me, having originally had priority would suddenly need to go from 60 to 0 mph fairly quickly, where as the second sign indicated that I am less likely to need to stop, as the other car would be waiting on the opposite side of the road for me to pass ( hopefully!)

I know these are all little things, but they are actually quite interesting when considered a little deeper than normal !

Apart from enjoying the course, at the end of the day, I have gained a recognised qualification, further discounted insurance and some possible life saving skills. And I would have been doing nothing else useful on my summer evenings !

So, Would I recommend it to others... ? Probably Yes
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I may progress onward with it as ultimately I'd like to get to 'Blue light' driving but the next local IAM course isn't until May 2017, so I've plenty of time to think about it
 
buzyg said:
Useful notch in the belt Alan. Enjoyed following this thread. :thumbsup:
I thought so, ...until I rang Admiral to tell them and they quoted me an extra £46 premium !! I immediately queried it and after 2 minutes on hold there is now "no adjustment" either way !

They can't tell me if my next renewal will be cheaper or not yet, but at least it gives me more chance with alternative quotes !!!
 
Number5 said:
buzyg said:
Useful notch in the belt Alan. Enjoyed following this thread. :thumbsup:
I thought so, ...until I rang Admiral to tell them and they quoted me an extra £46 premium !! I immediately queried it and after 2 minutes on hold there is now "no adjustment" either way !

They can't tell me if my next renewal will be cheaper or not yet, but at least it gives me more chance with alternative quotes !!!

Hi Alan, we have been with Admiral for a few years now as they do multi car for the kids, but this year they have lost it. £1500 for my Z and daughters 2006 Corsa. We are now with other insurers at £650 for both cars.
 
firebobby said:
Number5 said:
buzyg said:
Useful notch in the belt Alan. Enjoyed following this thread. :thumbsup:
I thought so, ...until I rang Admiral to tell them and they quoted me an extra £46 premium !! I immediately queried it and after 2 minutes on hold there is now "no adjustment" either way !

They can't tell me if my next renewal will be cheaper or not yet, but at least it gives me more chance with alternative quotes !!!

Hi Alan, we have been with Admiral for a few years now as they do multi car for the kids, but this year they have lost it. £1500 for my Z and daughters 2006 Corsa. We are now with other insurers at £650 for both cars.
We have 4 cars on Admiral multi car. I will be watching for the renewal.
 
buzyg said:
firebobby said:
Number5 said:
I thought so, ...until I rang Admiral to tell them and they quoted me an extra £46 premium !! I immediately queried it and after 2 minutes on hold there is now "no adjustment" either way !

They can't tell me if my next renewal will be cheaper or not yet, but at least it gives me more chance with alternative quotes !!!

Hi Alan, we have been with Admiral for a few years now as they do multi car for the kids, but this year they have lost it. £1500 for my Z and daughters 2006 Corsa. We are now with other insurers at £650 for both cars.
We have 4 cars on Admiral multi car. I will be watching for the renewal.

We had 2 multi car policies with them (5 cars per policy) and to start with it was fine, but they have been creeping up and this year was a total pi55 take so time to move on
 
firebobby said:
Hi Alan, we have been with Admiral for a few years now as they do multi car for the kids, but this year they have lost it. £1500 for my Z and daughters 2006 Corsa. We are now with other insurers at £650 for both cars.

I have the BMW520d, the Alpina, the Wife's Mini 1.6 Copper and Daughters 1.4 mini one, all for £1,150. Unbelieveably cheap considering daughter is only 17 and in her own car. Her mates are all paying £1500+ for 1.0 Aygo's & Corsa's on single policies.
However, I will be watching the renewal and asking questions if it goes up much. :oldman:

I'm not sure what level IAM you need to get to, but I've heard a rumour that you can automatically get Comp cover driving any other car.
 
With multi car policies how does it go if you dont want one after a few years?
Is it difficult to get half decent prices for seperate policies as I assume you would lose a lot of no claims discounts that would be built up with seperate policies.
Its one of the reasons I have never looked at getting a multi policy, in case they have you over a barrel and just creep the prices up every year.
 
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