Incredible detail....

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JayD

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 Chatham, Kent
Some of you may have seen this but for those who havent, here you go..

How to get rid of the dreaded orange peel!!!

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=181&t=685712&i=0&mid=0&nmt=Pics%20of%20my%20E93%20M3%20post%20KDS%20wet%20sand%20and%20paint%20refurbishment
 
Looks good. A shame it isn't proper before/after shots to get a real idea of the difference.

As far as I knew, the worst orange peel was in the base, under the laquer... if the top-coat was THAT rough to start with it'd have looked dull and been worthy of refusing delivery imho!

Do £50,000+ cars usually come with a clearcoat that is literally lumpy to the touch?

Dave
 
Mr Whippy said:
Do £50,000+ cars usually come with a clearcoat that is literally lumpy to the touch?
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Nowadays yes - part of the problem is water-based environmentally safe paints, the other is that most cars are painted by computer-controlled machines. A good finish takes the same care and skill you see above, and car-makers don't want to take that kind of time or pay that kind of money per car unless you're buying a new RR or Bentley, and often not even then.
 
epbrown said:
Mr Whippy said:
Do £50,000+ cars usually come with a clearcoat that is literally lumpy to the touch?
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Nowadays yes - part of the problem is water-based environmentally safe paints, the other is that most cars are painted by computer-controlled machines. A good finish takes the same care and skill you see above, and car-makers don't want to take that kind of time or pay that kind of money per car unless you're buying a new RR or Bentley, and often not even then.
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If the laquer really was that bad I question why the owner even accepted that. I honestly don't believe BMW let cars go out with orange peel that bad on the laquer.

I believe the before/after pics and description mislead people into thinking you can correct the orange peel, when infact you cannot. If your clearcoat is that bad you shouldn't even be accepting delivery of the thing imho!

Not doubting a good polish of the clearcoat can improve things, but I think, if the pictures really are indicative of the difference (rather than simply making the improvements look better than they are), then the car has defective paint, or the quality of BMW's paint of a £50,000 car really has gone terribly, steeply, down hill.

25 mins with some cutting compound after the clear went on would have removed 95% of that orange peel if it really was clearcoat lumpiness!

Dave
 
Aliv6 said:
CHRIST! Amazing work on something which should of never needed doing!!!
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Indeed!

I'd never really care for having my car THAT perfect, it is afterall a wearing surface and just a car, BUT, I'd certainly want it better than that.

I remember years ago pouring over an E39 M5 in black, and really finding the paintwork absolutely flawless really. Infact, the day I did (a big car show), the BMW's and Porsches really did stand out there as, by and far, having the BEST paintwork going.

Clearly BMW have let it slip in this regard :(

My Z4 seems pretty good however, made in the good old US of A :D
 
Yeh I have seen some of thier work, they are in Gillingham dead opposite Lepsoms the alloy re furb people, they had an Audi TT outside when I was there, they had just done, really good job, bet it doesnt come cheap tho.
 
He mentioned 60hrs on the pistonheads thread, which is a huge investment in time...! I bet he'll be charging a good £15 an hour minimum, so £900+ I rekon.

An investment worth making on a £50,000 M3 I suppose, as ultimately even if the M3 came in good order to start with, what they do is clearly another level of mirror-finish!

Lets put it this way, if I were down that way and wanted detailing type work doing, I'd be giving them a ring as the prices do look very very reasonable!

Dave
 
Read this thread yesterday and was surprised about the crap quality of he paint.

Walking down the road today passed a parked 57 plate 320 coupe in Jet Black, Orange Peel very evident, all I can say is BMW have let their standards slip. :(
 
Interesting they do a soft top clean / reseal for £75-£100.. wonder whether it would still come back with the fold marks as they seem like perfectionists..
 
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