I really really really hate this man

To be a politician, you should be over 40 and have at least 15 years experience in a proper job.
 
sars said:
To be a politician, you should be over 40 and have at least 15 years experience in a proper job.

Damned right. If you want to be a financial director, I believe you need a real and relevant qualification. Apparently not to be chancellor
 
Stuart Truman said:
sars said:
To be a politician, you should be over 40 and have at least 15 years experience in a proper job.

Damned right. If you want to be a financial director, I believe you need a real and relevant qualification. Apparently not to be chancellor

All of the above. A 2:1 for feck's sake ?? Obviously I could do that job - had to re-sit my maths to get into Uni, but I left it with a First in Business Studies. Still can't count properly, but I reckon I am better qualified than that thriving a$$hole :roll:
 
To be fair every chancellor of the exchequer has been a complete cretin for the past 15 years as far as I can see.

The big mess we are in now which is causing the hard times is a function of global slowing of growth and also our own debt problems from over a decade of excess government borrowing.


At least generally we have a government aiming to pay off the debt and reduce a bloated public sector. However, I do think that they SHOULD be borrowing money to get private sector jobs and investment boosted by investing in future infrastructure for the UK. Ie, roads, rail projects, stuff that will make jobs today and is worth getting in debt for basically. Stuff that makes us stronger and more efficient for the future!

Dave
 
I'm a tory voter, but I have to agree with the article. That said, Brown was just as bad at taxes, just didn't play the rules to his own benefit. So he's a thieving bastard and stupid, which is why he was such an effective PM :D
 
I dont uderstand why everyone isnt on the same tax rate, so the rich pay more and the poor pay less in a fair way. For example if we say 10% then someone earning £200 would only pay £20 and someone earing £2000 would pay £200. Ten times the pay would mean ten times the tax. Its crazy that we have all different tax rates...no wonder people try to avoid it or invest in other countries..in the uk you get punished for sucsess.
 
This bit is odd:

and even though he'd told Parliamentary authorities this was his second home the taxman was told it was his main home

How can you have two different definitions for different purposes?
 
pvr said:
This bit is odd:

and even though he'd told Parliamentary authorities this was his second home the taxman was told it was his main home

How can you have two different definitions for different purposes?

i bet if a normal person did that, they would be done over for fraud!

but yeah agree, he is a scumbag who uses his political power for his own gain.... much like all the rest of them
 
I'm always amazed that people are so surprised by this sort of thing

It saddens me to hear one story after another of people using and abusing the system to get what they can out of it - but it doesn't surprise me - human greed I guess - most of these stories are concerned with money or personal gain. Some get found out - few pay for their transgressions - how to make a change?

:tumbleweed:
 
Provide a rent free flat in London for the duration of the MP employment ... :D
 
On a personal level I think he might be okay. We were out walking in the Macc area a while back and walked past his house, nice place. He was playing footie with a couple of small children in his garden, having fun, the kids seemed very happy. He looked to be loving it too, slightly embarrassed mind when we all grinned and said hello. On that small excerpt of his life I decided he may be quite a nice chap.

The economy and the Tory policy is probably more about selling a narrative to the core and swing voters than what is the best way forward. We have no idea what he actually believes (if anything) but something Ghenghis liked seems possible. And nobody actually knows what policies will make the most difference.

As for the property deals, he is a product of his background. Plenty of cash floating about to take advantage of and a culture of entitlement will lead to the fleecing of the taxpayer. I don't hold him personally responsible for his willingness to take advantage. It is a systemic problem.

So, he is rich, privileged, greedy, complacent and leading us all to an uncertain future.

Nothing new about that. :thumbsup:

PS I am not a Tory voter
 
Hunter said:
I dont uderstand why everyone isnt on the same tax rate, so the rich pay more and the poor pay less in a fair way. For example if we say 10% then someone earning £200 would only pay £20 and someone earing £2000 would pay £200. Ten times the pay would mean ten times the tax. Its crazy that we have all different tax rates...no wonder people try to avoid it or invest in other countries..in the uk you get punished for sucsess.


Well said Hunter. People use tax avoidance because they are sick of people like Milliband taking more and more off them and pissing it up the wall.

When wide scale corporate tax avoidance starts happening maybe just maybe you need to bring your corporation tax rates back into line.
 
pvr said:
Provide a rent free flat in London for the duration of the MP employment ... :D

That's the answer really isn't it build a complex within a 10 minute walk of Westminster with 650 identical 2 bedroom apartments
 
sars said:
pvr said:
Provide a rent free flat in London for the duration of the MP employment ... :D

That's the answer really isn't it build a complex within a 10 minute walk of Westminster with 650 identical 2 bedroom apartments

Buckingham Palace? :D
 
Finisterre said:
On a personal level I think he might be okay. We were out walking in the Macc area a while back and walked past his house, nice place. He was playing footie with a couple of small children in his garden, having fun, the kids seemed very happy. He looked to be loving it too, slightly embarrassed mind when we all grinned and said hello. On that small excerpt of his life I decided he may be quite a nice chap.

The economy and the Tory policy is probably more about selling a narrative to the core and swing voters than what is the best way forward. We have no idea what he actually believes (if anything) but something Ghenghis liked seems possible. And nobody actually knows what policies will make the most difference.

As for the property deals, he is a product of his background. Plenty of cash floating about to take advantage of and a culture of entitlement will lead to the fleecing of the taxpayer. I don't hold him personally responsible for his willingness to take advantage. It is a systemic problem.

So, he is rich, privileged, greedy, complacent and leading us all to an uncertain future.

Nothing new about that. :thumbsup:

PS I am not a Tory voter

So by the same token ? .......next time my Z gets vandalised I,l just put it down to the perpetrator being a "product of his background"
 
sars said:
pvr said:
Provide a rent free flat in London for the duration of the MP employment ... :D

That's the answer really isn't it build a complex within a 10 minute walk of Westminster with 650 identical 2 bedroom apartments

Paint a bullseye on it?
 
sars said:
To be a politician, you should be over 40 and have at least 15 years experience in a proper job.

Never a truer word written.

It goes along with Clarkson's comment that the first people to be banned from being politicians are people who want to be one! A few years ago when one of the Milliband's said his dream was to open a 'policitian school' to capture fresh young graduates and brain-wash them before they had any real life experience what so ever terrified me. The thought of such people running the country on nothing but the ideals that have been planted in their heads :dizzy:
 
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