I have put my money where my mouth is

Old-Duckman said:
All I can really form my opinion from is by watching videos and reading articles that I choose to believe.
There, fixed that for you ODM. :thumbsup:
Rather than support a (very) dubious cause in a Country you have no knowledge of; maybe start a little closer to home? Just a thought. :thumbsup:
 
I'm going to try to cover the many (what I consider anti-gun) posts in one, hopefully brief post...I'm not too good at being brief at times.

Anyway I have heard that the parents of the school shooter in question may be charged with something. A responsible gun owner should not allow children (especially one that was apparently having behavioral and now obviously emotional problems) access to their personal firearms. That should go without saying. I think it would be right to charge the parents with some form of negligence.

I was taking a sauna when I was reading all the posts and was composing some of my thoughts...in the heat. I have cooled down now (literally) and one thing I wanted to interject into the comment of the "many" school shootings in America is the following. Yes there are troubled, demented, psychopaths who commit such violent crimes in our country but relatively speaking, with respect to our population and size they are relatively rare. That said (and I know some will say that the following is non sequitur) but today in America a Federal judge disallowed Pfizer and the FDA to delay releasing data on the development of the Covid-19 "vaccine". Those two entities had petitioned the court to delay the release of the document for ...are you ready, 55 YEARS ! The judge ruled that they must release 500 pages per month. Well the first document dump noted (in their own document mind you) that in the first 2 months of trials they recorded 1223 deaths ! And the "vaccine" was still released under and EUA and deemed "safe and effective" by our government.

So how does this relate to gun violence in America? Well for one I saw no mainstream media coverage of this document release. There may be a sentence here or there (I do not watch "the News") but I saw nothing on the Net from CNN, MSNBC or other outlets of their ilk. I'm not saying that they did not report anything but I did not see it in my search. Plenty of independent media sources and FOX had something but I did not go to all their sites nor did I go to FOX.

So over 1200 people dead from a "safe and effective vaccine" and...crickets. But a troubled kid with a gun (hmm meets our anti-gun narrative let's cover it ad infinitum!) gets coverage as if it were the Kennedy assassination!

A man of color mows down people in a Christmas parade, kills 6 and injures 62...But wait it wasn't reported as a man brutally kills and injuries peaceful people during a parade. No, each MSM outlet referred to the deed as "an SUV...did such and such". No mention of the man's race of course...Once again, doesn't fit the narrative. Wait a minute, why was the school shooting not reported as "a gun killed 4 students..." Same reason, they have an agenda in their so called "reporting" and demonizing firearms is near the top of the list.

SO unlike school shootings that are ACTUALLY relatively rare, the so called RARE adverse reactions to the "vaccine" kills 1200+ people in 2 months. Is that sinking in at all or am I talking to the wall?

In conclusion, your rage against the death of those students is surely justified but the majority of you sing praises of the "wonderful" vaccine that killed 305 times more than the school shooter. Where is your outrage? Misplaced!
 
I think you're doing this for a laugh tbh...no one can be this....errrr...daft, shall we say...!

So you'll listen to, and allegedly give money to, crackpot groups of anarchists in another country that you've admitted to not even looking at the whole site of, but you don't watch the news in your own country.

You ask how RD Green can form an opinion on this group of nutters if he hasn't watched all of their video, (I sadly did and one minute was enough to make my mind up but I stuck with it, and yes it just got more and more stupid as it went on) but you don't watch the news in your own country but can apparently form an even opinion.

Have you actually worked out the % of the population of your country compared to the number of deaths from the vaccine in your numbers stated...? I'll let you do it as the thud from your chin hitting the floor will probably knock the servers out if I tell you here. Hint: Theres quite a lot of zeros in it.....

Nor am I going to go into yet another post on what happens if no one has the vaccine....if you really don't know then I don't know what to say to you.

You seem a nice bloke but again I think you're doing this for a laugh imho. If not then........... :wink:
 

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[ref]Old-Duckman[/ref], This year alone you are averaging a school shooting at least once a fortnight.
Now I really don’t know why you want to make light of it but it seems to me you place more importance in conspiracy theories than you do in American schoolchildren not being shot during their lessons.
Your priorities are rather skewed.
 
School shootings are, obviously, awful but they are realistically a drop in the ocean of gun involved murders when you look at gang/crime shootings, for example there have been more than 3000 shootings this year in Chicago alone (SAUCE), 19,000 people killed last year across the US in shootings (SAUCE).

The US has a gun problem and it is far more complicated than a policy of "just ban guns bro"
 
Flyingfifer said:
School shootings are, obviously, awful but they are realistically a drop in the ocean of gun involved murders when you look at gang/crime shootings, for example there have been more than 3000 shootings this year in Chicago alone (SAUCE), 19,000 people killed last year across the US in shootings (SAUCE).

The US has a gun problem and it is far more complicated than a policy of "just ban guns bro"

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I read your replies, all rather polite, I appreciate that I try to be that way too.

One point regarding the 1223 deaths in the vaccine trials...remember this was in the first 2 months.

Hoping you all have a great weekend. As much as you may think I'm crazy...I still like it here and I love my Z!
 
Old-Duckman said:
One point regarding the 1223 deaths in the vaccine trials...remember this was in the first 2 months.

I am waiting on more information to come out on this. Face value it doesn't seem very good. I would like to hear from someone who knows how it all works to make comment. All I have seen so far is a few people share the documents on Twitter.

Did you see the all the children Pfizer have put in hospital?
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/120-children-hospitalized-province-suspends-pfizer-vaccine-batch-4397748.html

All the risks and no reward.
 
mgrlane said:
Old-Duckman said:
One point regarding the 1223 deaths in the vaccine trials...remember this was in the first 2 months.

I am waiting on more information to come out on this. Face value it doesn't seem very good. I would like to hear from someone who knows how it all works to make comment. All I have seen so far is a few people share the documents on Twitter.

Did you see the all the children Pfizer have put in hospital?
https://e.vnexpress.net/news/news/120-children-hospitalized-province-suspends-pfizer-vaccine-batch-4397748.html

All the risks and no reward.
I had not seen that, it is horrible! "All risk and no reward" I agree completely. I have heard doctors say that children 5-11 (those sleepy joe pushed ahead to inoculate, and the crooked FDA approved) statistically have a zero percent chance of dying from covid. At the least the push behind this insanity is money, at the worst it is something far more nefarious.

We have a little one in our family aged 5, I asked her mother if she planned on getting her "vaccinated". Her response, "No way, if I won't get it do you think I'm going to have her get it?" I took that as a rhetorical question...
 
mgrlane said:
All I have seen so far is a few people share the documents on Twitter.
As Spectre elluded to earlier in another thread, this is not Twatter.
You want to talk conspriracy sh*t, do it there, not here.
I have a teenage daughter who got vaccinated recently to save the likes of you who want to justify your reasoning for not getting vaccinated.
Old-Duckman said:
Did you see the all the children Pfizer have put in hospital?

I am presuming neither of you have children. Many of us do, so take your bullsh*t elsewhere.
 
Pondrew said:
mgrlane said:
All I have seen so far is a few people share the documents on Twitter.
As Spectre elluded to earlier in another thread, this is not Twatter.
You want to talk conspriracy sh*t, do it there, not here.
I have a teenage daughter who got vaccinated recently to save the likes of you who want to justify your reasoning for not getting vaccinated.
Old-Duckman said:
Did you see the all the children Pfizer have put in hospital?

I am presuming neither of you have children. Many of us do, so take your bullsh*t elsewhere.

No need to be nasty pond.

The documents he talks of are from Pfizer- they are not a conspiracy.

I am sorry the discussion upsets you but there is no need to swear at people.
 
mgrlane said:
I am sorry the discussion upsets you but there is no need to swear at people.
I didn't swear "at" anybody. I just swore. Some of those comments hit more of a nerve than usual. I am not apologising for it.
I don't do personal insults on here; I will leave that to others.
 
Pondrew said:
mgrlane said:
I am sorry the discussion upsets you but there is no need to swear at people.
I didn't swear "at" anybody. I just swore. Some of those comments hit more of a nerve than usual. I am not apologising for it.
I don't do personal insults on here; I will leave that to others.

Pondrew said:
so take your bullsh*t
sounds pretty directed to me fella.

I appreciate that when someone brings forward uncomfortable facts its not easy but there is no need to go down that route
 
Makes me laugh that the very people who freely throw insults at others get offended so easily.
I am not getting drawn into this anymore; it's pointless as it's all been done many times before. Have a lovely week everyone :thumbsup:
 
Pondrew said:
Makes me laugh that the very people who freely throw insults at others get offended so easily.
I am not getting drawn into this anymore; it's pointless as it's all been done many times before. Have a lovely week everyone :thumbsup:
Yeah! Bog off! Yer knob! :poke: :D :D :D
 
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