How unhappy would you be to find this?

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dario

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I bought a 2010 Clio Cup on Monday last week, whilst giving it a once over to make sure its good for a track day this Saturday, I found this extremely badly repaired tyre.

I'm unhappy about finding the damaged tyre, but i'm incensed that somebody has repaired a tyre that should have been put in the bin. Running on a tyre this badly repaired clearly risks life and limb.

Getting it changed tomorrow. I'm not sure what to do about the seller and their duty of care.
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That's a DIY repair to get you home, I carry one with me for emergencies but the instructions say treat it as a temporary thing to get you to a tyre station.

Was it a dealer or private sale?

Andi.
 
That looks like a DIY bodge job - and is shockingly dangerous on a performance car. I'd want them to pay for the new tyre, but as that's unlikely to happen nutting them comes a strong second :x
 
Nasty, looks like its been plugged with a repair kit which are only suitable for small nail punctures, and good job you spotted it,

Don't see what you can do if it was a private sale as they can just claim the tyre was on the car when they bought it, if a trade sale, then trading standards.

Tim.
 
andicole0 said:
That's a DIY repair to get you home, I carry one with me for emergencies but the instructions say treat it as a temporary thing to get you to a tyre station.

Was it a dealer or private sale?

Andi.
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Private sale, but that won't stop me if i think he has deliberately put my life and those of my family at risk for the sake of £125.
 
TitanTim said:
Nasty, looks like its been plugged with a repair kit which are only suitable for small nail punctures, and good job you spotted it,

Don't see what you can do if it was a private sale as they can just claim the tyre was on the car when they bought it, if a trade sale, then trading standards.

Tim.
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Passed an MOT just 2 weeks back.

I did get the seller to sign the sale document saying there weren't any fault….

This happened in his ownership and on his watch. As i said, not too worried about the cost, just the risk i've put my self through and i did rag the tits off it the other day!!!
 
That is a shocking state for a tyre. Even more shocking that someone would sell that as there is no doubt that at some stage you would have noticed it and been not happy with him ...
 
pvr said:
That is a shocking state for a tyre. Even more shocking that someone would sell that as there is no doubt that at some stage you would have noticed it and been not happy with him ...
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PVR, when i found the repair i felt quite sick. Not for the cost, but for the risk that I had been taking.
 
Not sure that's a DIY attempt. Looks like a standard puncture repair but they've used 2 plugs instead of 1 and a bit too close to the shoulder for comfort! I thought those mushrooms were inserted from the other side after removing the tyre from the rim so maybe not a DIY but a cowboy garage repair?
 
Shocking! That never went through an MOT like that......unless of course seller has a mate doing back door tests. I'd be very seriously pissed off if someone knowingly sold me a car with such a risky repair. I'd get all the safety gear, brakes etc checked out myself as if they bodge a £90 tyre what else did they cut corners with? :cry:

Sorry subject for your 1000th post!
 
dario said:
andicole0 said:
That's a DIY repair to get you home, I carry one with me for emergencies but the instructions say treat it as a temporary thing to get you to a tyre station.

Was it a dealer or private sale?

Andi.
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Private sale, but that won't stop me if i think he has deliberately put my life and those of my family at risk for the sake of £125.
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I feel for you, but the seller can just say they had no idea and bottom line is 'caveat emptor', when buying private.
First thing I do with private sales is put the car through an MOT at my trusted centre and do a full check of everything else I can.
 
There is nothing to say that the wheel / tyre went through the MOT, could have used / borrowed a spare wheel for the event or even winter wheels depending on how dishonest you are.
 
it should not of been repaired .scraped its to near the edge of the tyre .crap job 2 plugs used .I would go back to seller must have known about it .the garage shouldn't have done it :thumbsdown:
 
cj10jeeper said:
dario said:
andicole0 said:
That's a DIY repair to get you home, I carry one with me for emergencies but the instructions say treat it as a temporary thing to get you to a tyre station.

Was it a dealer or private sale?

Andi.
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Private sale, but that won't stop me if i think he has deliberately put my life and those of my family at risk for the sake of £125.
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I feel for you, but the seller can just say they had no idea and bottom line is 'caveat emptor', when buying private.
First thing I do with private sales is put the car through an MOT at my trusted centre and do a full check of everything else I can.
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I hear you, but i will point out the error of his ways and ask for the repairer name. If this was done by a garage and its not in compliance with the appropriate BS repair standard then i will inform trading standards for the repairer.

I'll just turn this in to a game.

PS this comes hot on the heals of getting a 19"run flat tyre destroyed on the M25 by a pothole last week. Still trying to think who i should contact regarding this.
 
dario said:
andicole0 said:
That's a DIY repair to get you home, I carry one with me for emergencies but the instructions say treat it as a temporary thing to get you to a tyre station.

Was it a dealer or private sale?

Andi.
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Private sale, but that won't stop me if i think he has deliberately put my life and those of my family at risk for the sake of £125.
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AAs advice......

The only legal terms that cover a private sale contract are:
the seller must have the right to sell the car
the vehicle should match the description given by the seller
the car must be roadworthy - it is a criminal offence to sell an unroadworthy car and an MOT certificate from a test several months ago is no guarantee that the car is roadworthy today.

You could argue that the vehicle was sold as unroadworthy or potentially dangerous, I guess some people perception of what is dangerous and what isn't are different. I'm with you and would be horrified to know I'd been driving at speed on a tyre such as that, yet some people it wouldn't bother them.

Tim.
 
The AA talks out of it's arse a lot of the time.

A car does not have to be roadworthy to be sold - if it has been viewed by the buyer or described as Sold as seen/spares or repair etc.
Like someone says earlier.

Dario -

If you have viewed the car prior to purchase, then it's tricky as you have had a chance to inspect it.
If he signed a piece of paper with "no known faults" then you may have a chance of getting guilt money out of him, but if he is not in the motor trade - is it fair to expect him to know what a legal and illegal tyre repair is?

For your info -
Here is a guide to the repair standards in a PDF from the British Tyre Manufacturers Association
If you fancy getting technical. as far as I can see, it is outside the repairable area, and it looks like the hole is too wide to be repaired (hence the use of 2 plugs)
 
Key question - Did you sign a declaration that the car was 'sold as seen'?

If you did, it's buyer beware & you haven't got a hope.

If not, I'd suggest you first try a 'sensible' conversation that it's an illegal tyre as should have been thrown away., asking for a contribution - otherwise you'll be reporting it to trading standards to investigate how it was allowed to happen & he can deal with all the smelly stuff it brings.
 
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