How to use Carsoft on the Z4

ZetaTre

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San Diego County
There was a thread a while back regarding Carsoft not working on the Z4. Well, I got it to work. However it required a little looking around on various forums, so here's a summary for all of you folks to get a free ride...

For these of you that wanna know what can be done with Carsoft, here's a review done by DJ Genius.

Carsoft is made of a Hardware part and a Software part. The hardware can be bought on eBay from various sellers. This is the seller I bought it from. And here's what I got

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I believe all units on sale on eBay are the same inside the box, probably just a different shape. There are some that plug directly into the OBD plug (while mine has a cable). I like this way better only because I have more wire and I can keep the laptop where I want.
The reason why they are on eBay is because some time ago the diagrams of the box & cable ended up on the Internet and Chinese manufacturer ended up flooding the market with knockoffs unit... Which work just as fine as the original... (if you're handy with electronics, I can send you the diagrams so you can build your own box & cable)

The unit comes with a serial port, and this is the first source of issues. Not many laptop today come with a serial port. If your does, then it will work fine. If it doesn't, th only USB-to-Serial adapter that I know works is the one on sale at RadioShack

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If you can't find it on the other side of the pond, let me know and I sen you one at cost. Otherwise, on another forum I found that USB-to-Serial adapters with Prolific chip work. An alternative is a PCMCIA Serial adapter which is more likely to work, I have no experience with it, but several sellers recommend it over the USB-to-Serial if you're computer doesn't have a built in Serial

Along with the cables, you also get a copy of the software: trash it. Most likely it doesn't work, and if does, it likely gonna have a crappy crack that makes it crash when you attempt to run a diagnosis. Software is the second source of issues

David Mc on Bimmerforum wrote a very well done thread on how to install a working copy of Carsoft. He's also sharing one, which require a password. I'm not sure I can post it here, so, if you want a working copy of Carsoft with software, update, crack and instruction, send me an email and I send it to you. Otherwise you can ask David Mc about it and he'll give you the password.

There's only a couple of things: Carsoft 6.5 is said to be working for ENGINES UP TO 10-2004. Actually it should be read SOFTWARE UP TO 10-2004. If your DME got updated recently (as I guess happened to mine) you won't be able to read it... For me it's no big deal since I have the Peake tool so I can read the codes (if I get any). All other modules can be read (you can see how the DME doesn't respond; all other not responding modules are not installed in the Z4).

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It might take a while to get familiar with the BMW modules names so here's a list of all their acronyms.

The car/key memory programming doesn't work on Carosft. Also, I'm not sure if it works in the newer Z4 (with the N54/N46): if someone lets me try next time I can find out.

Also, now you know I have it, so if anyone around San Diego/Los Angeles has some issued that wants to diagnose, I can try to help. I know IMZ4N had issues with his Airbag light. I actually had the Airbag light turning on on the Z3 when my dad took the wrong measures of the seat and basically felt on it. On the Z3 the contacts under the seat (either for the passenger occupancy sensor or the pyrotechnic pretentioner) are known to get oxidized and with time the trigger the Airbag light. I used some contact cleaner on mine and it works perfectly... So once you get back from HC you can stop by and see if it works on yours too (or maybe you got it fixed over there).
 
ZetaTre - great thread and write up. Thanks for sharing
I'm almost tempted to buy another kit and try again. I'll think about it ove the next day or 2, but did waste a lot of time on the first attempts.
 
ZetaTre, what OS do you have on your laptop? Sounds good, going to get a setup like that. Thanks :)
 
cj10jeeper said:
ZetaTre - great thread and write up. Thanks for sharing
I'm almost tempted to buy another kit and try again. I'll think about it ove the next day or 2, but did waste a lot of time on the first attempts.

You can give another shot to a setting just like mine. The seller I bought it from is also the cheaper one on eBay. Only think might be the ability to read the DME: if that's your goal, and your DME had been updated you might not be able to. For the DME I would recommend the Peake tool. Just don't waste time with the Software provided: if you send me an email I send you the copy I have so you can install it ahead of the purchase

WaZZZZman said:
ZetaTre, what OS do you have on your laptop? Sounds good, going to get a setup like that. Thanks :)

I have Windows XP with SP3. Carsoft works with older system, but not sure with Vista. I think I was reading people having issue with the serial port configuration in Vista
 
I'll pm you.

For the forum I had the unit, tried 2 different copies of the software and codes and installed it on an older laptopwith serial and also a base station set up. Neither worked beyond IIRC reading my mileage.

My interest is to be able to reset SRS or airbag warnings as I have a habit of tripping them with various mods and secondly for curiosity to read codes and see what's going on in the electronics
 
cj10jeeper said:
I'll pm you.

For the forum I had the unit, tried 2 different copies of the software and codes and installed it on an older laptopwith serial and also a base station set up. Neither worked beyond IIRC reading my mileage.

My interest is to be able to reset SRS or airbag warnings as I have a habit of tripping them with various mods and secondly for curiosity to read codes and see what's going on in the electronics

When I read the modules on my wife's Z4 (built 01-2003) I got an error with the Instrument Cluster (aka COMBI) and the CVM (Convertible top Module). I was able to clear them succesfully. I guess it would works on the other modules as well. On the Z3 I was able to reset the Airbag light and clear all the related codes. These are the only 2 car's I've been able to test it on.
 
Update - based upon ZetaTre's post I sourced another cable from a different Ebay supplier and used a copy of the software from ZetaTre. Well after following instructions to the letter I have success. :thumbsup:

I can get into many of the modules found lots of error codes on the Z4 and X5 and have eliminated them. Nothing serious on either and if they come back I can investigate them in detail. Had a lot of fun with dynamic data and just looking at different things going on.

Still have the airbag light on, but I'm working on that as time permits.
 
cj10jeeper said:
Update - based upon ZetaTre's post I sourced another cable from a different Ebay supplier and used a copy of the software from ZetaTre. Well after following instructions to the letter I have success. :thumbsup:

I can get into many of the modules found lots of error codes on the Z4 and X5 and have eliminated them. Nothing serious on either and if they come back I can investigate them in detail. Had a lot of fun with dynamic data and just looking at different things going on.

Still have the airbag light on, but I'm working on that as time permits.

Not sure if IMZ4N still have his Airbag light on, but if so when he has time I can try reset his and see if I succeed.

Regarding the clearing all the codes, that's exactly what I did: I had one in the instrument cluster and one in the convertible top module. I haven't got a chance to check if they came back or not, but if they do I'll investigate
 
Ya'll make me want one of these now. Mainly just to see what my engine is doing, not because anything is wrong. Just because that's awesome knowing what the readings are during operation.
 
Am out of town so no time to play with the Zed this week, but I ran into a brick wall on the airbag.

I can access the module found errors and cleared them. Checked that they were cleared and get the 'all OK' message. Problem is that the airbag light is still on the dashboard.

I know exactly what the initial eror cause was - I undid the drivers door airbag and turned the ignition on :oops:

So why would the light still be on if there is no error code stored? Can an error also be stored in another module hat carsoft is unable to access?
 
Sorry cj10jeeper but I can't really be helpful on this.

However I would like to know if you or anyone else would be interested in group buy of a GT1 setup for let's say $1,000.

GT1 is what dealer use to diagnose cars, it's no third party product. I read something similar to Carsoft happened to Siemens (who makes the GT1 for BMW): the subcontracted the manufacturing of the unit to some Chinese companies and all off a sudden you find them on eBay... Go figure...

Just a though.
 
Yes - we'd already spoken on this IIRC so was just hopeful someone else might have some thoughts to chip in.

Group buy. I guess i'd need to understand a little better how it would work with members so widely spread across the globe. How many at what amount 5x$200 10x$100, etc. I'm of course open to it if we have a plan, but have only ever done group buys wehere multiple purchase drives the unit price down rather than spreading the cost of one over many.
 
cj10jeeper, I forgot to update you on this: when I replaced my CDV IMZ4N was there and he was still having his Airbag light on. I plugged in Carsoft and sadly enough it couldn't find any code on the airbag module but couldn't either clear the light. I also think IMZ4N used the Peake tool: same problem with that one, it cleared the codes but not the light.

Regarding the GT1 the price ranges from $1,000 to $2,500 per unit and since now I don't have any major issue with none of my cars (and the Z4 still under CPO) I'm gonna hold off the purchase. Because of the price it's hard to get more than 2/3 people to sign up so I gave up the whole idea of a group buy. I'm just eventually gonna get one myself...

Just to clarify, as for Carsoft, GT1 is make of a hardware box & connector and a software. The software normally comes on 2 hard drive (or a single hard drive with dual boot) since one is in Unix (the diagnostic portion) and one in Windows (the programming). GT1 IS what BMW uses so YOU CAN do EVERYTHING a BMW tech does (even things such as activating the EU functions on US cars or activate the DSC pump).
 
Thanks for the update then. At least having tried on another car it confirms that the Carsoft cannot reset airbags (even though it cleared the codes on mine)

Group buys where something is shared is real tough. I've only seen it work where clubs buy it and then rent to users, but even that takes organising and people don't return items, damage them, etc.
 
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