gannet said:they must have changed the design to more securely house the insert (A) - Ive just tried on a new valve I received yesterday - as you laziomonster drill bit just pushed right the way through leaving it probably impossible to remove the insert...
oh and I was holding the valve in my fingers, so now have a cut thumb
Ive lived with it for 3 years... might just have to live with it for a few more!
Why not remove the valve entirely? That's what i've done.