How to check the sensors for Convertible top?

[luckyboy1228]

Its been awhile since I've posted on here, I have been searching the internet for a guide on how to test the convertible top senors, and reset them. The shop wants to charge $85/hr to just determine whats wrong with it. I am hoping someone has created a DIY on how to trouble shoot the sensors.


Description of the problem:
The car lost power during raising the roof one night, and now it works fine until it gets past the roll bars than has to be manually put into place. The light flashes red on the indicator, and the windows aren't rolling down,

 

[aliveankikin]

I can't remember where I saw it, however, disconnect the battery for 10 mins, reconnect, ign on (not engine) drivers windows down hold onto switch until down & wait 5-10 sec until click, same up, same passenger window and same for the roof, you must hold onto the switch.

 

[srhutch]

There is only one sensor and that is in the boot on the rear bulkhead.

I would expect the windows to go down even without the rest, but not back up again.

 

[luckyboy1228]

Thank you, I'll give it a try. I have been playing with the micro-switch in the trunk, but that didn't seem to be the problem.

 

[srhutch]

Just to confirm the issue is when closing the roof, and opening is fine?

 

[buzyg]

:? Sounds like a reset is required, rather than a physical problem. My passenger side window was not closing automatically, for a month or so, when the roof closed. Now works perfectly again. Wish I knew why.

 

[aliveankikin]

any luck

 

[domsz4]

There is only one sensor and that is in the boot on the rear bulkhead.

I would expect the windows to go down even without the rest, but not back up again.

that is incorrect there are 4 sensors on the roof. the senor in the boot is a simple micro switch. 2 are located on the passenger side frame just above the hydraulic ram and 2 are located above the passenger head in the frame. They are 2 wire hall sensors; basically semiconductor switches that activate when a metal object comes close.

What problem are you having to suspect the sensors? there is no way to reset these they are either broken or not. they are about £35 each from what i remember. The ECU might need a reset.

 

[Aleita]

Hi. I think I have the same problem.
I’m waiting a new battery then I’ll try to disconnect older for 10 min and initialize windows.

Thank you

 

[mariocaz]

that is incorrect there are 4 sensors on the roof. the senor in the boot is a simple micro switch. 2 are located on the passenger side frame just above the hydraulic ram and 2 are located above the passenger head in the frame. They are 2 wire hall sensors; basically semiconductor switches that activate when a metal object comes close.

What problem are you having to suspect the sensors? there is no way to reset these they are either broken or not. they are about £35 each from what i remember. The ECU might need a reset.

Hi!!!

I have one of these 2 sensor loose, not in its place, because is broken that part to place the sensor, do u know where I can buy it or the part number ??, the one that reads when the roof is open is the one that is not in its place and I am having the red led light always flashing.

 

[domsz4]

that is incorrect there are 4 sensors on the roof. the senor in the boot is a simple micro switch. 2 are located on the passenger side frame just above the hydraulic ram and 2 are located above the passenger head in the frame. They are 2 wire hall sensors; basically semiconductor switches that activate when a metal object comes close.

What problem are you having to suspect the sensors? there is no way to reset these they are either broken or not. they are about £35 each from what i remember. The ECU might need a reset.

Hi!!!

I have one of these 2 sensor loose, not in its place, because is broken that part to place the sensor, do u know where I can buy it or the part number ??, the one that reads when the roof is open is the one that is not in its place and I am having the red led light always flashing.

wow thread from the dead there, Sorry i have no idea where you will get these exact ones from. I suspect they are nothing fancy and the likes of RS components, or CPC-farnel, or any other seller of electrical compnents will have something that will to the job but without getting one off the car and testing i wouldnt know what to suggest. sorry

 

[crhenkel]

my 06 Z4 soft top has been working perfectly then today after it being down for a while i trued to put it up and it starts to go up just fine until it gets past the roll bars then it just stops I can press and let go of the up button a While and it might move a bit a couple times but it always stops working just past the roll bars on its way up and will move no further it always seems to be able to power it back down and then up but still stops on its way up when it gets just past roll vars. it can be manually released and put up manually fine but the top locks Will never engage and finish locking the top in the closed position. The light flashes red on the indicator when it stops powering closed and never goes out unless i fully open the top. pump and motor work fine they just turn off at the roll bars on the way closed.. root locks and motor work fine when in down position but wont when closing even if i manually close roof all the way to the windshield they will not lock closed

 

[Zedebee]

Had a similar problem on my son’s roadster. It turned out to be a broken wire in the loom above the passenger side window (when the roof is raised) where it passes over the hinge. The loom itself looked fine and it was only when I stripped it back after two days investigating that I found the broken wire. It seemed as though the loom was holding the connection together until it got parted on opening the roof. It was the red wire from memory and the outer plastic had become quite brittle. Another forum member posted a photo of exactly the same problem (sorry, you’ll have to search), but it seemed quite a rare phenomenon compared to other roof problems. Easy fix once you’ve found it though, just splice the wire together with a connector and tape it up.

 

[ph001]

Yes, almost certainly a broken wire in the loom that runs above the headlining in the roof. There are pics on here somewhere.

 

[crhenkel]

Thanks guys. I'm going to look for a broken wire on that side this weekend. It it there tough getting in to that area with the small space.

 

[ZeroCooL]

any luck? Sorry to revive this old beast again but after a roof change we now get the dreaded red light flashing after roof is closed.

The roof opens and closes fully... works fine... but after 10 seconds the red light starts flashing (when closed) as it to say it didnt latch properly... so hold the close button down, it releases slightly, reclamps itself closed and pulls the windows back up again and its fine....

then 10 seconds later round and round we go.....

 

[BumpyZ4]

I can't remember where I saw it, however, disconnect the battery for 10 mins, reconnect, ign on (not engine) drivers windows down hold onto switch until down & wait 5-10 sec until click, same up, same passenger window and same for the roof, you must hold onto the switch.

I had the same issue and disconnecting my battery overnight fixed my car.