How do you identify genuine CSL's? - identified as reps

Raify said:
You're right, I've only called them fakes to emphasise the point to BMW. I know there are many happy customers here, and if I'd bought them myself I'd be happy too. As you've said, they look great.

But, I paid a premium to buy from BMW AUC and to have genuine CSL's, and a warranty for everything on the car. If something happened to these wheels, my local dealer would not touch them as they're non-bmw parts. Also BMW are not supposed to sell cars with non-BMW parts on them through the AUC system. I also presume that they're not as light as genuine's.

I'm glad that I appear to have a good dealer and salesperson dealing with it. Let's see what they decide...
Fair comment and hope it works out ok.
 
Your actually supposed to declare optional extras to insurance companies, if the wheels are or were an optional extra when buying the Z4M then you should mention it. Some insurance companies arent really bothered about this but some are especially on the bigger/more expensive wheels.
 
Update.

I've just spoken to the sales manager and quite frankly I'm fuming:

1. He claims that the advert did not state they were CSL wheels - awaiting a screen dump from his history file to prove this.

2. He says they can sell the car with whatever wheels they like, fake/rep CSL's or Oz racing spinners, as long as they pass the AUC check (road test and visual inspection for cracks + warping). Dispite the fact that my local BMW said they wouldn't touch the wheels in any warranty claim.

3. He says that his 1 year warranty does not cover wheels anyway.

4. Said he would buy the car back when I said I wasn't happy.

I can't think what to do now. I'm so angry I might just give it back.
 
gannet said:
Try and get a viewpoint from BMW UK on whether the AUC scheme should have OEM wheels on?

on the 'phone to them now.......

They said:

"The AUC system allows a dealer to sell a car with non OEM parts, but if any of those parts need replacing that OEM parts have to go on."

He also said that he was surprised that the dealer didn't offer to resolve it with genuine wheels, and suggested I escalate it to BMW customer services....
 
Weren't there 2 types of CSL wheels? One light weight set fitted to the CSL M3 and a heavier set fitted to the CS M3?

Also don't forget that a dealer technically couldn't order a replacement CSL wheel for you as they need a CSL chassis number to do it. Try walking into your dealers and ordering a set of CSL wheels for your Z4! Because of this, many Z4's sold with CSL wheels will probably be replicas. :wink:

Personally if it were mine and the wheels looked in good condition, tyres were the correct size and they looked good on the car I wouldn't care if they were replicas!
If you hadn't found out that you could get replicas, would you have noticed any difference in the car? I have seen a few roadsters at dealers with all kinds of non-BM wheels on them.

It's obviously is an issue with you though so I hope it all gets sorted, but don't let it ruin the car for you. :)
 
You're right, Breaker. If I hadn't found this forum and didn't know about replicas I wouldn't know and I'd be very happy with wheels that look great. The tyres are the correct size (if not the ideal brand).

Thing is, I was planning on getting a genuine set of CSL's through my friend who has a M3 CSL after purchase. One of the reasons I got this particular car was because it already had CSL's on it.

I'm just irritated at his "couldn't-care-less" attitude.
 
Breaker said:
Well if it's any consolation your car looks very nice with those wheels! 8)
Just looked at your newbie post. :thumbsup:

Thanks, now where's that post saying that CSL reps are just as strong and not that much heavier than geniune wheels? :)
 
Does anyone know who makes the replicas and what I should look for to identify them as 'kosher' replicas?
 
Breaker said:
Weren't there 2 types of CSL wheels? One light weight set fitted to the CSL M3 and a heavier set fitted to the CS M3? :)

The only difference between the CSL and CS wheels is that the CS fronts are narrower and therefore probably lighter than the CSL fronts.
 
Spaceman Spiff said:
Raify said:
Does anyone know who makes the replicas and what I should look for to identify them as 'kosher' replicas?

LOL so you're saying they might be replicas of replicas? :P

I just want to reassure myself that they're fit for purpose. The dealer says they passed the AUC check, but I don't know what that involves. Who makes the reps?
 
Think you will find that a hard question to answer - there are many different wheel manufacturers out there... hence why a guarantee of quality is hard to know :(
 
This saga is getting more interesting. I asked for the AUC check list and they have ticked the box next to:

"Check for approved wheel and tyre combinations, sizes and speed rating."
 
So what is their definition of an approved wheel if they don't know who made it? Did they check to see if it fits and kick the tyres?
 
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