Do those count as 'stacked' headlights still though? They said the headlights would revert to side-by-side internals at production.
How close will this be?
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Darkangelv2 said:
Still look stacked to me which would be a real shame as it loses its BMWness, looks more like a jag in terms of lights.
omg out of all the pics I have seen of this car there isn't a single photo of the car with the roof up? Does the car even have a roof? or is it such a disappointment that they too embarrassed to show it?
Is it a hard top? is it a soft top? if its a bloody soft top again then it most definitely does not get my vote. No offense to all the soft top roof lovers but I hate soft top roofs. Personal preference which is why I love the E89 so much.
Is it a hard top? is it a soft top? if its a bloody soft top again then it most definitely does not get my vote. No offense to all the soft top roof lovers but I hate soft top roofs. Personal preference which is why I love the E89 so much.
So they have gone from a beautiful silent extremely fast compact hard top roof to an olden day skadonk soft top again 
That would explain why they don't show it with the roof up...looks crap! Such a new design of car with all the latest bells and whistles with a material top that will eventually fade in the sun and get frayed and make noise and and and.
I have no words. :thumbsdown:
Sorry guys but they have gone backwards...
That would explain why they don't show it with the roof up...looks crap! Such a new design of car with all the latest bells and whistles with a material top that will eventually fade in the sun and get frayed and make noise and and and.
I have no words. :thumbsdown:
Sorry guys but they have gone backwards...
To be fair, the most likely reasons for the fabric roof is:
1. A metal folding roof couldn't be packaged at all / compromised too many other things such as boot space and centre of gravity
2. The budget didn't stretch that far because they focused on other things such as the chassis and drivetrain
I doubt the BMW design team would have specc'd a fabric roof from the pre-concept stage, probably engineering's doing
1. A metal folding roof couldn't be packaged at all / compromised too many other things such as boot space and centre of gravity
2. The budget didn't stretch that far because they focused on other things such as the chassis and drivetrain
I doubt the BMW design team would have specc'd a fabric roof from the pre-concept stage, probably engineering's doing
I wouldn't have a soft top myself but I don't think they look ugly. As for falling to bits after a few years just look at the amount of older Zs on here with nothing wrong with them.
The reason for no pics with the roof up could be as simple as its a convertible and that's how it looks best.
I don't know the answer to this but when previous Zs were launched did they show the roof up on them? Or is it standard to show them with the roof down?
Anyway, I don't need to worry about trivial things about the new model as it will be a while before it is at a price I could afford.
The reason for no pics with the roof up could be as simple as its a convertible and that's how it looks best.
I don't know the answer to this but when previous Zs were launched did they show the roof up on them? Or is it standard to show them with the roof down?
Anyway, I don't need to worry about trivial things about the new model as it will be a while before it is at a price I could afford.
Nictrix said:
Spot on... it's not like it's a 1st Gen MX5 or an S2000 roof... Z4 roofs, while not everyone's preference are very good, and unless they are faulty they don't make any noise. I've seem more issues with folding hard tops than I have soft tops. I don't have a horse in the race here either.
I would never have considered a folding hard top either.
buzyg said:Each to their own. I for instance, would never consider a folding hard top.flybobbie said:
Unless it was lighter than a soft top.
With a 3 litre turbo charged engine I don't think many would notice the difference between the weight of a soft or hard top to be honest. I would think the same applies to a 2 litre zed? On a track day you may notice a tenth or so but day to day running????
Nanu said:buzyg said:Each to their own. I for instance, would never consider a folding hard top.flybobbie said:
Unless it was lighter than a soft top.
With a 3 litre turbo charged engine I don't think many would notice the difference between the weight of a soft or hard top to be honest. I would think the same applies to a 2 litre zed? On a track day you may notice a tenth or so but day to day running????
You're completely missing the point. It's the corners and interaction with the machine, that make driving a car worth while. IMHO. So keeping the C of G low is more important than keeping the rain out. The body has more than enough rigidity with the roof down.
I owned a e36 325i cabrio with a soft top roof and due to that I will never buy a soft top car again. This is personal preference and is not an attack on any soft top lovers out there.
I never said that it will fall to bits? :| I'm not sure where that's coming from? but it does eventually fade in the sun that's just fact. Perhaps it will take a bit longer for you guys in the UK due to it being a much colder climate when compared to places like South Africa but it will fade eventually and where the hard metal ribs that form its shell meet the fabric it eventually causes fraying to happen and it starts to look tatty.
Boot space being a concern with regards to a hard top makes no sense. The E89 has a massive boot for a convertible when being compared to the previous Z4 E85 with a soft top. Even when the roof is down the boot space is big for a convertible.
All I am saying is that it would seem they have gone backwards with regards to design. Hard top looks more modern any which way you look at it.
I never said that it will fall to bits? :| I'm not sure where that's coming from? but it does eventually fade in the sun that's just fact. Perhaps it will take a bit longer for you guys in the UK due to it being a much colder climate when compared to places like South Africa but it will fade eventually and where the hard metal ribs that form its shell meet the fabric it eventually causes fraying to happen and it starts to look tatty.
Boot space being a concern with regards to a hard top makes no sense. The E89 has a massive boot for a convertible when being compared to the previous Z4 E85 with a soft top. Even when the roof is down the boot space is big for a convertible.
All I am saying is that it would seem they have gone backwards with regards to design. Hard top looks more modern any which way you look at it.