Hid or Led Angel eye??

[Gaz_E89]

Hi Newbie here advice required I've an angel eye out and need to replace. Owned the car near a week can't stop smiling.
Anyway
Has anyone any pros cons preferences to using the HID halogens or LEDs?

Currently has Led, 4 surface mounts 90 degree to each other which in my opinion doesn't look like an even brightness all the way round. The ballast bit gets really hot too.

Would a bright white halogen be better??

Il follow up with a picture give me 10 mins
Gareth

 

[Gaz_E89]

To be fair it's the first time I've seen them in the dark lol,

 

[mcbutler]

You have an aftermarket angel eye led mod in your hand there. Most people upgrade to LED as halogen originals are yellowish.
If its working ok leave it, you will find it illuminates the inner angel eye more than the outer. Personally I like this as the bonnet clips off the top of the inner angel eye and makes the car look like its angry!
As fior HID, only the outer headlight has a lamp in it, the inner is not used. HID do lose brightness over time, how old is your car?
To change the hid you remove a panel in the wheel arch forward of the road wheel.

 

[mcbutler]

You have an aftermarket angel eye led mod in your hand there. Most people upgrade to LED as halogen originals are yellowish.
If its working ok leave it, you will find it illuminates the inner angel eye more than the outer. Personally I like this as the bonnet clips off the top of the inner angel eye and makes the car look like its angry!
As fior HID, only the outer headlight has a lamp in it, the inner is not used. HID do lose brightness over time, how old is your car?
To change the hid you remove a panel in the wheel arch forward of the road wheel.
I see you are in Hull, I grew up in Willerby, live in Plymouth now. I might be in Hull in a few weeks so pm me your phone number if you like...

 

[Gaz_E89]

Thanks Mark it's 60 plate, yeah i think they look good now I see them in the dark
One is off though and I'll prob best replacing the pair then do you know what wattage that looks like by pics?

Yeah mate gives a bell, my mate grew up Willerby too he's just bought and e89 last week too we're like kids with new toys :driving:

I assume it's best leaving the outer lamp alone as its dipped and main beam??

Had a play at Bimmercode today, noticed the check control for angel eyes was off, and brightness was unasigned value

If I had a bright white halogen would that not be a better option if its a similar looking white/blue light and then it can be monitored too?

 

[Gaz_E89]

:driving: :driving:

 

[Silverstar]

I tried using LEDs in the angel eyes but I really didn't like how only the inner ring was bright and even then it wasn't as bright as halogen bulbs. In the end I went for some white Osram bulbs (can't remember their exact name but I can look it up) although not as crisp white as LEDs I think they are alright and way whiter than the stock bulbs which are really very orange. Also they are brighter than the LED bulbs and both inner and outer ring shine fairly evenly:

 

[Anonymous]

HIDs are a waste of time,even if you could fit them, for Angel Eyes..

The light source required and the outout are diffuse..so the advanatge that HIDs have of precise focus is lost on Angel Eyes.. asuitable LED at a colour temperature you wan't is the best option IMHO..

 

[mcbutler]

HIDs are a waste of time,even if you could fit them, for Angel Eyes..

The light source required and the outout are diffuse..so the advanatge that HIDs have of precise focus is lost on Angel Eyes.. asuitable LED at a colour temperature you wan't is the best option IMHO..

Not to mention they would probably melt the fitting!

 

[mcbutler]

Thanks Mark it's 60 plate, yeah i think they look good now I see them in the dark
One is off though and I'll prob best replacing the pair then do you know what wattage that looks like by pics?

Yeah mate gives a bell, my mate grew up Willerby too he's just bought and e89 last week too we're like kids with new toys :driving:

I assume it's best leaving the outer lamp alone as its dipped and main beam??

Had a play at Bimmercode today, noticed the check control for angel eyes was off, and brightness was unasigned value

If I had a bright white halogen would that not be a better option if its a similar looking white/blue light and then it can be monitored too?

I bought mine a while ago when I had my 23i, I swapped them to my 35i when I bought it. I am sure some of the guys who have bought recently can point you in the right directiom, just ask a new questin on the forum.

Yes leave the outer lamps alone, aftermarket LED headlamp bulbs are at best generally crap.

I dont have bimmercode but I do have Carly, Angel Eye LED's can be dimmed/brightened etc in carly, its always in my car so if we meet up I can code it for you no problem. Bright white halogens are fine, they just dont stay bright white for that long.

Is your car the red one or the whiute one??

 

[Silverstar]

Bright white halogens are fine, they just dont stay bright white for that long.

I have had mine for a year and they are just fine. How long are they supposed to last before they deteriorate?

 

[mcbutler]

Bright white halogens are fine, they just dont stay bright white for that long.

I have had mine for a year and they are just fine. How long are they supposed to last before they deteriorate?

Depends how much you use them really, the figure would be in hours not days or weeks. All filament lamps dim with age as the filament oxidises.

 

[Silverstar]

Bright white halogens are fine, they just dont stay bright white for that long.

I have had mine for a year and they are just fine. How long are they supposed to last before they deteriorate?

Depends how much you use them really, the figure would be in hours not days or weeks. All filament lamps dim with age as the filament oxidises.

My car is used regularly but the mileage is kept low (so not so many hours), hopefully I will get a good few years out of them before I need to replace them again.

 

[mcbutler]

I have had mine for a year and they are just fine. How long are they supposed to last before they deteriorate?

Depends how much you use them really, the figure would be in hours not days or weeks. All filament lamps dim with age as the filament oxidises.

My car is used regularly but the mileage is kept low (so not so many hours), hopefully I will get a good few years out of them before I need to replace them again.

I am sure you will, you sound like me, I am mileage phobic lol

 

[Anonymous]

I have had mine for a year and they are just fine. How long are they supposed to last before they deteriorate?

Depends how much you use them really, the figure would be in hours not days or weeks. All filament lamps dim with age as the filament oxidises.

My car is used regularly but the mileage is kept low (so not so many hours), hopefully I will get a good few years out of them before I need to replace them again.

250-1000 hours for halogen bulbs depending on how bright they are (not wattage) so the super bright/ high lumens have much shorter lives..

 

[Gaz_E89]

It's the red one mark, have u any pics of your 30i. Yeah I've only had a few plays with bimmercode it's my bosses for his i3 so I have to drive out to his everytime as its paired to his phone. I will invest in one if you've any recommendations.

I tried repairing the led driver today, peeled open the case and carefully removed the rubber epoxy to find none of the components were stuck to the pcb its obviously run that hot its desoldered I assume, doesn't look like any current limiting designed in so it has a 5w resistor sucking in the current but you could fry an egg on it! Resoldered everything and it worked for about 10 mins and the led bulb then packed in lol. I think I'll avoid cheap Chinese ahem I mean aftermarket LEDs so I've replaced with cool blue halogens for angels and they look good just not quite as white.

I'm running out to bosses now I'm going to set the drls to without dipped beam so it's just the 2 rings. It does it for the coming home lights it looks good

Aftermarket led


Halogen

 

[mcbutler]

Depends how much you use them really, the figure would be in hours not days or weeks. All filament lamps dim with age as the filament oxidises.

My car is used regularly but the mileage is kept low (so not so many hours), hopefully I will get a good few years out of them before I need to replace them again.

250-1000 hours for halogen bulbs depending on how bright they are (not wattage) so the super bright/ high lumens have much shorter lives..

Its probably fair to say that switching on and off uses up some of that time, shock on the filament etc.
All by the by really....

 

[mcbutler]

It's the red one mark, have u any pics of your 30i. Yeah I've only had a few plays with bimmercode it's my bosses for his i3 so I have to drive out to his everytime as its paired to his phone. I will invest in one if you've any recommendations.

I tried repairing the led driver today, peeled open the case and carefully removed the rubber epoxy to find none of the components were stuck to the pcb its obviously run that hot its desoldered I assume, doesn't look like any current limiting designed in so it has a 5w resistor sucking in the current but you could fry an egg on it! Resoldered everything and it worked for about 10 mins and the led bulb then packed in lol. I think I'll avoid cheap Chinese ahem I mean aftermarket LEDs so I've replaced with cool blue halogens for angels and they look good just not quite as white.

I'm running out to bosses now I'm going to set the drls to without dipped beam so it's just the 2 rings. It does it for the coming home lights it looks good

Aftermarket led
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Halogen
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The resistor is there to replace the resistance of the original halogen bulbs filament. If you fit LED without it the car throws up a blown bulb error as it sees no resistence in the circuit.
Good leds come with a small box in the middle of the cable between the existing plug and the led which simulates the missing filament. They do get hot but it should not damage the casing, unless its a naked resistor and it was touching the case.

My car is red also, carmine red...
35i, stage one celtic map, decatted downpipes, oil catch can, uprated intercooler, eibach springs PS4S tyres, 385BHP 415lb/ft torque on the wheels.
Shes called Scarlet...... She's a 'bad' girl lol

 

[Gaz_E89]

Wow I love it, 385bhp lol sounds lethal I bet she is bad :evil: and apologies 35i. Mines Rosie named by the last female owner I've adopted it lol

That make sense why the resistors are there then but the check control for them was turned off anyway.
We def need a chin wag then sounds like your in the know for mechanical upgrades. I'm just enjoying driving it for now,. I've been bad and kept the m badges on but I'll get down to aesthetics next payday!

What's your thoughts for drl can't decide with or without main beam. I've been looking at the lci side indicators thinking maybe colour code them to the alloys? Though your chrome looks good


Or

 

[Silverstar]

It's the red one mark, have u any pics of your 30i. Yeah I've only had a few plays with bimmercode it's my bosses for his i3 so I have to drive out to his everytime as its paired to his phone. I will invest in one if you've any recommendations.

I tried repairing the led driver today, peeled open the case and carefully removed the rubber epoxy to find none of the components were stuck to the pcb its obviously run that hot its desoldered I assume, doesn't look like any current limiting designed in so it has a 5w resistor sucking in the current but you could fry an egg on it! Resoldered everything and it worked for about 10 mins and the led bulb then packed in lol. I think I'll avoid cheap Chinese ahem I mean aftermarket LEDs so I've replaced with cool blue halogens for angels and they look good just not quite as white.

I'm running out to bosses now I'm going to set the drls to without dipped beam so it's just the 2 rings. It does it for the coming home lights it looks good

Aftermarket led
IMG_20200701_161830.jpg

Halogen
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IMG-20200701-WA0008.jpeg
Screenshot_20200701_174238_com.android.gallery3d.jpg

They are the same Osram bulbs I have in mine. As you say not as white as the LEDS but they function better.