Genuine AC Schnitzer pedal sets are not £27. They are roughly 10X that price. Just a heads up...
http://www.bavauto.com/se1.asp?dept_id=314
http://www.bavauto.com/se1.asp?dept_id=314
heel and toe
- Thread starter mad4slalom
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I've never been able to heel and toe. I've watched the YouTube videos etc, but I can't do it!!! Especially on the M, where the brake and accelerator pedals seem so far apart.
It seems to hurt my foot as well. Perhaps I'm just uncoordinated!!
It seems to hurt my foot as well. Perhaps I'm just uncoordinated!!
I find it very difficult. I actually think I toe heal??
mad4slalom
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good photos, same as i had in the 3mr, so non gen u think? i thought they were cheap at 27 quid , any idea what the quality is like ,? still better than plastic oem for that money i guess 
ga41 said:
Thanks ga41. I'll have to have another go but I think I've tried that before. It's probably my lack of coordination though that's the main problem!
mad4slalom
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machine monkey, not sure if its the cdv as mine is deleted too, and yes loads better, i think its more the electronic throttle that sometimes you just catch it wrong, to tell the truth i cant honestly remember if the last kangaroo i had was before or after i deleted the cdv, i know i didnt have sport button pressed though.
original guvnor, inkey$, mad4slalom, it took me a while to get the hang of it too. About a year into my ownership and i still couldn't nail it down properly, of course it was the first car i ever tried it on though. Don't be dismayed, just keep practising and then you'll find that it becomes instinctive, like your feet working on their own accord. 
Will persevere. One day I know I'll nail it instinctively.ga41 said:original guvnor, inkey$, mad4slalom, it took me a while to get the hang of it too. About a year into my ownership and i still couldn't nail it down properly, of course it was the first car i ever tried it on though. Don't be dismayed, just keep practising and then you'll find that it becomes instinctive, like your feet working on their own accord.
Although it's called "heel and toe", it can be done with any part of the foot. On many cars, you are really using the left hand side of the foot on the brake pedal and the right hand side of the foot on the accelerator. It really depends on the relative position of the pedals - I can't think of many cars where I've actually used my heel and my toe.original guvnor said:
I always think of heel and toe as being a bit like double-declutching; I don't do it all the time, but it's nice to know that I can when I want/need to.
ga41 said:original guvnor, inkey$, mad4slalom, it took me a while to get the hang of it too. About a year into my ownership and i still couldn't nail it down properly, of course it was the first car i ever tried it on though. Don't be dismayed, just keep practising and then you'll find that it becomes instinctive, like your feet working on their own accord.
Absolutly agree, it takes ages to get it right.... I have been heal and toeing ever since my renault 5GT turbo days because it seemed to be largely made of cheese and I didn't want to break it. It seems second nature to me now and end up doing it in every car I drive although it doesn't sound quite as awesome in my 330d...
DONDP said:ga41 said:original guvnor, inkey$, mad4slalom, it took me a while to get the hang of it too. About a year into my ownership and i still couldn't nail it down properly, of course it was the first car i ever tried it on though. Don't be dismayed, just keep practising and then you'll find that it becomes instinctive, like your feet working on their own accord.
Absolutly agree, it takes ages to get it right.... I have been heal and toeing ever since my renault 5GT turbo days because it seemed to be largely made of cheese and I didn't want to break it. It seems second nature to me now and end up doing it in every car I drive although it doesn't sound quite as awesome in my 330d...
:rofl: this is me http://youtu.be/fK8hT2dh3Fk
SweetRide said:
I think we're all aware of that, they're off ebay! :wink: Having closely examined them, I can't see how any others could be 10X (or even 2X) better though :roll:
mad4slalom said:good photos, same as i had in the 3mr, so non gen u think? i thought they were cheap at 27 quid , any idea what the quality is like ,? still better than plastic oem for that money i guess
When I bought a set back in 2004 they cost £15 and they're still going strong. The aluminium is lovely and smooth and the rubber inserts are still in excellent shape.
Instead of blipping the throttle, try to just put enough pressure on the accelerator pedal so that you get rev-matching when you let out the clutch. You don't need much pressure on the accelerator to make this work. If you want to continue downshifting into other gears, you then lift off the accelerator and repeat for each downshift, or if you then want to pull away smartly you roll your foot off the brake whilst flooring the accelerator. I find this works better for me with a drive-by-wire system.inkey$ said:
mad4slalom
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thanks for that sdvice exdos , your posts continue to provide the most informative and helpful advice on the forum. dont know if the ones on my 3m were gen ac or not as they were on the car when i purchased it, but as long as they;re made of ally and rubber, like you I dont think they can differ a great deal.
I have bought the replica AC ones… some tips on fitting them would be much appreciatedexdos said:They're awkward to fit, so if you get some let me know, and I'll give you a few tips because they come without instructions.
Franzino said:I have bought the replica AC ones… some tips on fitting them would be much appreciatedexdos said:They're awkward to fit, so if you get some let me know, and I'll give you a few tips because they come without instructions.
Here ya go: http://www.z4-forum.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=58218&p=861728&hilit=pedals#p861728