Hazar Warning Not Working - Not the switch...

wolverine2k

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 Hainault IG7
So although I got an MOT for my car, I think my tester felt sorry for me and let the hazard switch issue slide.

Symptom: The hazard switch does nothing. The door unlock/lock button works.

Tried: New switch. Resolved nothing.

Here's where I think I fudged up. I swapped the LSZ module when I was trying to get my headlight leveling to work and then swapped back to my LSZ as it didn't resolve the levelling. I think that step may have destroyed something to do with the hazard lights.

As I still had the spare LSZ, I thought I'd swap it in and see if the hazard switch would work... and it did! But then indicators weren't working so I thought this LSZ has some other issue. I pulled it out and noticed that one of the pins was actually bent over touching another pin so I don't know if I've short circuited something somewhere in the car now. I assume the pin was always bent and I should have checked it before!

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I've straightened it now but that one with the arrow was totally bent making contact to the pin to the left of it and combined with it to make a thicker pin (if that makes any sense).

Pin 12 which was bent down is "Switch Input, Left/Right Direction, S49L--R, S7, X32-9"
Pin 24 which is the one that was straight but being made contact by Pin 12 is "Switch, Hazard Button, S49W, S18, X516-3"

After straightening Pin 12, as per the picture, now the indicators work again and hazard doesn't work anymore. Identical to my existing LSZ :(

When I lock/unlock I don't get a hazard flash any more either.

Does anyone know if there is a fuse or something related to just the hazards or do I have two LSZs with the exact same issue?? Everything else seems to be working regarding the lights.

Or because the two pins were combined - could it just be that it's pushed the hazard connector in pin 24 out of the socket or something?
 
Hi,
Just brainstorming here… Looking at wds I’d think unlikely that combining pins 12 and 24 would have fried anything. Having two LSZs with same fault would be a black swan. Fuses 14, 23, 59 and 60 are related and worth checking. Inspecting the connector for mechanical failure, checking S18 for similar pin accidents, testing X12 pin 24, 47, 48 continuity to S18 pin 3, 6, 4. Reading error codes, perhaps. LSZ has a special emergency mode which, when triggered, limits funtionality and bricks the module. Diagnostics and e.g. fog light operation should be kaput, if in emergency mode, which from your description sounds unlikely.
 
Sorry to resurrect this thread after a whole year - I totally forgot to write my resolution.

Turns out the pins in the connector had been pushed back for pin 24 so the LCM was not getting the signal.

After 30 mins of trial and error and using micro tweezers to pull the connector port pins closer together - the hazards started to work again and the car sailed through it's MOT.
 
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