Has the classic Ford market gone potty?

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Ewazix

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Yes I know about MK1 Escort Mexico AVO prices, but 53 bids and £5.5k already, for this.. and zero confidence in it's authenticity. Amazing :o
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/mk1-escort-mexico-avo-rally-race-track-/192038031390?hash=item2cb65bd01e:g:1d8AAOSwo4pYOgg5
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Potential Turner prize winner there. Just and some deal animals. Easy worth 5k :lol:
 
That will be for the V5 and pre-tax chassis number I guess. Car seems to need a bit more than a t-cut though.

Mad, it's an old Ford Escort. I have crashed many of them!
 
Potential Turner prize winner there. Just and some deal animals. Easy worth 5k :lol:
 
Old Escorts is something I keep an eye on (Oeerrrr!!)

Anyway, I can't believe the money they have been making lately, I watched some proper basket cases shoot to 6 or 7 grand before selling, and a Mk1 shell, botched to death with big arches, and LOTS of rot went for nearly £8k - FFS, it was a shell with no running gear...

Makes me weep for selling my yellow Mk2 RS2000 custom back in 2000 when we moved to our last house, as no garage, I paid £1k for it 5 yrs earlier, and sold it for £2k. It was a runner, and complete, but needed a fair bit of welding..


Was watching this rusty but complete car a bit ago.. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-mk2-escort-rs2000-/272448452588?hash=item3f6f3177ec%3Ag%3AIFAAAOSwXeJYKKks&nma=true&si=LKxHTobsVwSwlYpOQzcdyCA6vsc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557


And then there is this for sale - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Escort-Mk2-Rs2000/172432892945?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D38661%26meid%3D5f90bfcc4a524124a05cc37cab0018e9%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D12%26sd%3D272448452588
WHY go to all that bother and not keep it original???

Mike
 
The escort scene has indeed gone insane, along with MK1 and 2, MK 4 RS turbos have gone mad, there's a few concours ones up at 40k, their original price was around 10k. Escort cosworths too are fetching double their sticker price for run of the mill cars.

Oh for hindsight.... :roll:
 
Yes, hindsight is wonderful!

I sold a 1977 RS2000 in 1984 for about £2,300, because I wanted a Capri Injection!

The Capri would now sell for as much as my Z4C - but I know what I would rather drive. V6 capris were fun, but not that much fun. :lol:
 
I too have a soft spot for Mark 1 Escorts, as that is what my first car was.

I am harbouring vague thoughts of doing one up to keep me occupied when I retire. At the prices they are fetching I'll have to work for longer to buy the car!
 
He has an up to date V5, on what ??, I thought the Chassis no on these was stamped into the front inner wing and on the slam panel. That pile of crap is missing all of the front end.
He also states the original colour as red, yet all the inner panels are yellow. :rofl:
 
This is a steal then
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ford-escort-mk1-project-Mexico-parts/361845885499?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D38661%26meid%3D900752a1a5ae4167bff83a3fa6ba45b6%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D192038031390
 
These are amazing prices but I guess if you're around my age (60 next year) and have a love of cars, then like me you will remember as a young kid (about 11/12 years of age) the Mexico Rally event and the 'special' Escort Mexico version which with it's special livery and short front bumpers was advertised as doing 0-60mph in 10 seconds . . . . . blew me away at the time and is an advert and image that has stayed with me since. It's probably the first 'special' car that grabbed my attention and was the start of my real passion for cars and driving. In fact (like many I suspect) I can still draw the front view of the Mexico with all the details of dogbone headlight and radiator, short bumpers, holed front valance, wide wheels, flared arches etc - something I did over and over as a kid - it's burned into my consciousness and memory. :lol:

So here we are in 2016 and many of my age might be heading for retirement and have some disposable income about so you can start to understand what's happening to the prices of such iconic cars . . . . yep it's amazing and crazy. :o :cry:
 
paulgs1000 said:
These are amazing prices but I guess if you're around my age (60 next year) and have a love of cars, then like me you will remember as a young kid (about 11/12 years of age) the Mexico Rally event and the 'special' Escort Mexico version which with it's special livery and short front bumpers was advertised as doing 0-60mph in 10 seconds . . . . . blew me away at the time and is an advert and image that has stayed with me since. It's probably the first 'special' car that grabbed my attention and was the start of my real passion for cars and driving. In fact (like many I suspect) I can still draw the front view of the Mexico with all the details of dogbone headlight and radiator, short bumpers, holed front valance, wide wheels, flared arches etc - something I did over and over as a kid - it's burned into my consciousness and memory. :lol:

So here we are in 2016 and many of my age might be heading for retirement and have some disposable income about so you can start to understand what's happening to the prices of such iconic cars . . . . yep it's amazing and crazy. :o :cry:
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I'm not disputing the perceived value of iconic cars like the Mexico, it's just that this pile of rot is not a viable car, there is nothing usable, nothing to restore and according to DVLA rules on registering radically re-built cars there are insufficient substantial parts to even transfer in to an authenticated Mexico shell. Anybody buying it needs a nicked Mexico or a faked up base model to clone on to the V5 and hope DVLA don't see the ebay advert!

DVLA rules
Cars and light vans must use:
- the original unaltered chassis or unaltered monocoque
bodyshell (that is, the body and chassis as one unit);
or
- a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same
specification as the original. A receipt from the dealer
or manufacturer is required.
AND the vehicle must have two other major components
– as listed below – from the original vehicle.
- Suspension (front and back)
- Axles (both)
- Transmission
- Steering assembly
- Engine
If a second-hand chassis or monocoque bodyshell is
used, the vehicle must have Individual Vehicle Approval
(IVA) or Single Vehicle Approval (SVA) (see section 11). A
‘Q’ registration number will then be issued (see section 7).
 
Ewazix said:
paulgs1000 said:
These are amazing prices but I guess if you're around my age (60 next year) and have a love of cars, then like me you will remember as a young kid (about 11/12 years of age) the Mexico Rally event and the 'special' Escort Mexico version which with it's special livery and short front bumpers was advertised as doing 0-60mph in 10 seconds . . . . . blew me away at the time and is an advert and image that has stayed with me since. It's probably the first 'special' car that grabbed my attention and was the start of my real passion for cars and driving. In fact (like many I suspect) I can still draw the front view of the Mexico with all the details of dogbone headlight and radiator, short bumpers, holed front valance, wide wheels, flared arches etc - something I did over and over as a kid - it's burned into my consciousness and memory. :lol:

So here we are in 2016 and many of my age might be heading for retirement and have some disposable income about so you can start to understand what's happening to the prices of such iconic cars . . . . yep it's amazing and crazy. :o :cry:
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I'm not disputing the perceived value of iconic cars like the Mexico, it's just that this pile of rot is not a viable car, there is nothing usable, nothing to restore and according to DVLA rules on registering radically re-built cars there are insufficient substantial parts to even transfer in to an authenticated Mexico shell. Anybody buying it needs a nicked Mexico or a faked up base model to clone on to the V5 and hope DVLA don't see the ebay advert!

DVLA rules
Cars and light vans must use:
- the original unaltered chassis or unaltered monocoque
bodyshell (that is, the body and chassis as one unit);
or
- a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same
specification as the original. A receipt from the dealer
or manufacturer is required.
AND the vehicle must have two other major components
– as listed below – from the original vehicle.
- Suspension (front and back)
- Axles (both)
- Transmission
- Steering assembly
- Engine
If a second-hand chassis or monocoque bodyshell is
used, the vehicle must have Individual Vehicle Approval
(IVA) or Single Vehicle Approval (SVA) (see section 11). A
‘Q’ registration number will then be issued (see section 7).
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As I said, how could that pile have a V5, there can't be a chassis number as the front end is missing :roll:
 
sadly the classic car world has gone bonkers and piles of rust are selling for small fortunes. sometimes they're tarted up and sold on, sometimes they're used to give a different ID to am car of less value. Sometimes the ID is used to create a UK car from an import and sometimes even a new shell can be built from an existing ID. With old Fords fetching upwards of £30k and the ability to build one from almost nothing for around £15k three money to be made.

Old minis are the same, Triumph (up to TR6), Austin Healey, etc are all the same. There are some exceptions, vintage cars are stagnant, classic BL and Rootes saloons the same. Exotics are even worse/better depending on your viewpoint. Went to visit my painter today, he restores classics to a very high standard. showed me an e-type he's working on. Car bought for £8 three years ago, restoration estimate is around £40k, finished value £90-£100K.

clear why the pile of rubbish goes up in cost if not value
 
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